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Re: What kind of tires?
« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2011, 07:58:59 AM »
another big problem with the toyo m/t is almost everyone over inflates them, they are made to run at low air pressures, alot of people with diesels run them at like 60 or 70 psi which is too high for them, and you have to rotate them every 3000 miles not every 15000

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Re: What kind of tires?
« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2011, 08:38:12 AM »
another big problem with the toyo m/t is almost everyone over inflates them, they are made to run at low air pressures, alot of people with diesels run them at like 60 or 70 psi which is too high for them, and you have to rotate them every 3000 miles not every 15000
The guys at our Schwaab said that guys in our area never make the warranty mileage on tires.  I got 22k on Toyo M/T's and 24k on Open Country A/T's with my 1 ton Dodge.  Not overly impressed to say the least.  However, it's hard to haul a load of firewood with your tires at 50 psi without looking like they're flat.  At 70 psi, they at least appear to be a bit better with 4000# on there along with a 7500# truck.  The stock tires at 90 psi looked much better, but had no resistance to flats.  At least with the Toyo's I don't get flat tires.  With the Cooper Discoverer's I had 5 flats in 4 months, and I took them back for a refund.  Thinking about getting the M-55's to try, but at $1500 for only 4 tires they'd better be damn impressive!
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Re: What kind of tires?
« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2011, 09:12:47 AM »
I was frustrated with flats from rocks breaking through the tread until a logger fiend recommended the M-55. I am not saying they are the best but it worked for me.
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Re: What kind of tires?
« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2011, 09:36:15 AM »
Air pressure is key to wear and performance for ANY tire. All manufactures of Heavy Equiptment tires have Load Speed and Air pressure charts to show how to get the best life out of the tires. They don't do it for over the road tires, i'm guessing for liabilty reasons. Most people with 1 tons should likely run about 50psi in thier tires except when they toss on a heavy load, or towing, then bump up the pressure  to the max or near. Impact breaks on  shot rock from logging roads are likely due to too much air pressure, drivign to fast and or not enough tread on the tire. Rubber helps cushion the belt package when at max PSI. My brother a Mech for a logging co never compleatly wears out his tires. He normally has an impact break at 15-25% Tread left. Since he drives a service truck and is alwasy loaded he runs max pressure... At the same time i know loggers that run 80-90psi on thier logging truck rigs, when the max psi is 110. They say that the tire flexes around the rocks and they have less impact breaks.  :twocents:
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Re: What kind of tires?
« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2011, 10:06:53 AM »
I would say for most people in your situation Some kind of AT would be best, and then buy a set of link Chains to throw in the truck.  Most people want the aggressive look on their rig, and if you don't put a lot of miles on it you'll be ok. A/T always wear better than MT. The larger the gap between the lugs the more prone to wear it is. Some M/T are better than others. Everyone that i know that loves the Toyo MT have light rigs, many with 1 tons have poor success.  :twocents:

The M/T style tires also have greater rolling resistance because of the deep, wide lugs.  Therefore, your fuel economy suffers.  Also, without siping them the M/T tires will not be nearly as good on ice and packed snow.  They look cool, but for practicality the A/T tires will serve much better.  I can't afford the cool looks, so I go with A/T and a 50k treadwear warranty.  I could care less if they make it to 50k because that'll be pro rated off of my next set.
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Re: What kind of tires?
« Reply #35 on: May 02, 2011, 11:14:21 AM »
Toyo M55's are the best overall all-around tire for all year if you spend a lot of time in the hills. :twocents:  I don't support Les Schwab, but if I did, that'd be all I ever bought for every rig.

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Re: What kind of tires?
« Reply #36 on: May 02, 2011, 11:38:23 AM »
I have had the Goodyear Wrangler AT/MT combo tire that they make. I've been super impressed with it in mud and snow, they have gone every where I have needed them too. I was able to get them for $185 a piece too by shopping around on the internet and getting a price match from Discount Tire. The only downside I have found is they do throw rocks at your wheel wells on gravel roads.

Here's the link to what I have...I really like them and certainly recommend them.
http://www.goodyeartires.com/tire/wrangler-duratrac/

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Re: What kind of tires?
« Reply #37 on: May 02, 2011, 11:38:58 AM »
Toyo M55's are the best overall all-around tire for all year if you spend a lot of time in the hills. :twocents:  I don't support Les Schwab, but if I did, that'd be all I ever bought for every rig.
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Re: What kind of tires?
« Reply #38 on: May 02, 2011, 11:58:59 AM »
My complaint has always been what Schwabs gets for Toyo MT in $.   Very expensive tire package.

I was fairly impressed with the Pro-Comp Mud Terrains that I ran through my last set. They were not on a diesel, but a couple of friends have run the Pro Comp x-treme AT on their Diesel's and gotten good wear.  I got 38k on my MT's and took them off with at least another 5000 miles left on them.  1 tire was a little worse off from where I through the truck out of alignment for 600 miles.

This time I went with the Fierce Tires - Fierce Attitude MT by Goodyear.  I have 10,000 miles on them so far and they seem to be wearing quite well.  50% of the cost of Toyo Mt in the size I bought.  I should get 40k miles or better based on the way they have warn so far.  I went with a narrower tire to improve gas mileage and reduce cost of the tire.  235/ 85 / 16 in a 10 ply tire.  32 x 9.5 on an F150.

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Re: What kind of tires?
« Reply #39 on: May 02, 2011, 12:54:20 PM »
You guys do realize that you can buy Toyos at stores other than Les Schwab.

Discount tire will special order ANY tire you want,and sell them to you for about 30% less than LS will.

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Re: What kind of tires?
« Reply #40 on: May 02, 2011, 12:55:38 PM »
Toyo M55's are the best overall all-around tire for all year if you spend a lot of time in the hills. :twocents:  I don't support Les Schwab, but if I did, that'd be all I ever bought for every rig.

The problem with the M55s is the very limited selection of sizes they come in. They are an outstanding tire though.

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Re: What kind of tires?
« Reply #41 on: May 02, 2011, 01:15:48 PM »
Toyo M55's are the best overall all-around tire for all year if you spend a lot of time in the hills. :twocents:  I don't support Les Schwab, but if I did, that'd be all I ever bought for every rig.

The problem with the M55s is the very limited selection of sizes they come in. They are an outstanding tire though.
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Re: What kind of tires?
« Reply #42 on: May 02, 2011, 03:55:56 PM »
You guys do realize that you can buy Toyos at stores other than Les Schwab.

Discount tire will special order ANY tire you want,and sell them to you for about 30% less than LS will.

Check out Tire Rack.  http://www.tirerack.com

I almost picked up my tires and rims there, they were cheaper then Les Schwab even with shipping and with new sensors installed.  The tires come, mounted and balanced to your door.  All you have to do is put them on.  The only reason I didnt get them there was because the rims I wanted where literally on a slow boat from China.  They could only find three rims in stock anywhere in the US, so I waited about two weeks then cancelled my order and went to see my old friend Les. 

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Re: What kind of tires?
« Reply #43 on: May 02, 2011, 04:03:09 PM »
I run the snot out of Firestone Transforce AT's. Work and personnel trucks.
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Re: What kind of tires?
« Reply #44 on: May 06, 2011, 08:32:07 PM »
I run cooper stt 33x1250 15 on my 1977 cj7 and love them, and cooper tires are made in the USA, not japan :twocents:

 


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