What kind of tires?

[westside Elkhunter]

Wondering what kind of tires guys or gals run on their diesel trucks?And how well they lasted on the truck? In need of new tires on my dodge.

[MuleySniper]

This morning I actually was at Discount Tire and they put on new 37x12.50x18 BFG KM2's on my 07 Ram 2500. Replaced the same size tire except they were Toyo MT's. The Toyos realistically have at least another year left on them, I just got kind of itchy and wanted some new ones. My dad got 60,000 out of his last set of Toyo MT's in a 35. He replaced with the BFG's too just because Discount has about the best prices around.

Anyone looking for a good set of Toyo 37x12.50x18's Im listing them now on CL for $400 or trade. Not too bad of a deal being that they are almost $550 each to go buy new.
MS

[combs338]

I ran 37x12.5x17 Toyo Open Country Mt's on my 2001 F-350 diesel and i got 55,000 on one set and i had 40,000 plus on the other set when i traded the truck in. I have 35x12.5x18 open country Mt's on my new truck and they seem to be wearing well. I recommend getting any tire you buy siped they seem to last longer when siped in my opinion. If you are siping a set of Mt's they recommend that you only sipe the inside treads. That's my 

[BallisticsNut]

I ran 37x12.5x17 Toyo Open Country Mt's on my 2001 F-350 diesel and i got 55,000 on one set and i had 40,000 plus on the other set when i traded the truck in. I have 35x12.5x18 open country Mt's on my new truck and they seem to be wearing well. I recommend getting any tire you buy siped they seem to last longer when siped in my opinion. If you are siping a set of Mt's they recommend that you only sipe the inside treads. That's my 

I too love the Toyo MTs.  About syping though, my son works at a local dealership and he tells me that syping does not increase decrease tire wear or traction in a measureable amount. On ice, syping is the only benefit that I am aware of. 

[7mag.]

I ran 37x12.5x17 Toyo Open Country Mt's on my 2001 F-350 diesel and i got 55,000 on one set and i had 40,000 plus on the other set when i traded the truck in. I have 35x12.5x18 open country Mt's on my new truck and they seem to be wearing well. I recommend getting any tire you buy siped they seem to last longer when siped in my opinion. If you are siping a set of Mt's they recommend that you only sipe the inside treads. That's my 

I too love the Toyo MTs.  About syping though, my son works at a local dealership and he tells me that syping does not increase decrease tire wear or traction in a measureable amount. On ice, syping is the only benefit that I am aware of.

Also, if you use your truck to hunt, the gravel roads will eat a syped tire pretty quickly. I learned that the hard way.

[Bluemoon]

I also run the Toyo MT's on my 3500 Dodge Dually.  I get about 50,000 miles however I am normally pulling a 16,000 lb gooseneck.  You may pay more for the Toyo's but the service and locations from Les Schwab are worth that to me.

[FC]

Also, if you use your truck to hunt, the gravel roads will eat a syped tire pretty quickly. I learned that the hard way.

Have you ever tried a factory siped tire?

[7mag.]

Also, if you use your truck to hunt, the gravel roads will eat a syped tire pretty quickly. I learned that the hard way.

Have you ever tried a factory siped tire?

No, syped at the dealer. Must be a difference?

[CAMPMEAT]

M/Ts are good tires but horrible in the snow, syped or not. I wore mine out at 60,000 miles and won't buy them again. Way over priced too.

[MuleySniper]

Yeah mine sucked in the snow too, but I wouldn't complain getting 60,000 out of a mud terrain tire on a full size truck. If guys are really concerned about getting the best ride and longest wear, buy AT's. Whenever you put a mud terrain on any vehicle, you typically will pay more and not get the best ride and wear. More of an aesthetic thing anyway.
MS

[CAMPMEAT]

Yeah mine sucked in the snow too, but I wouldn't complain getting 60,000 out of a mud terrain tire on a full size truck. If guys are really concerned about getting the best ride and longest wear, buy AT's. Whenever you put a mud terrain on any vehicle, you typically will pay more and not get the best ride and wear. More of an aesthetic thing anyway.
MS

No kidding. I bought Hankooks this time.

[norsepeak]

35" toyo on my dodge diesel, do great in the snow, but ya gotta air down.  Tow my snowmobile trailer in the snow all the time.   There is no tire on the planet that will do good in snow aired way up like you need them for driving on the hiway or hauling stuff, gotta air down to go in the snow.

[predatorpro]

as the only TIA certified guy on here lol i run hankook dynapro at on my dodge diesel, 295 70 17 and they are awesome, i use to have 35 1250 17 toyo mt on a bronco and they were great in the mud and thats it, not impressed in the snow, and being an open shoulder tread design you really need to stay on top of rotating them if you want them to last, they arent a bad tire tho if you like to spend big bucks, just depends what you want to do on them, i dont suggest siping your tires on a diesel, they tend to really want to open up too much and will chunk out bad when driving off road, if you truck stay on pavement all the time it u might get away with it but i dont think its worth the money for the application you would use them in

[Special T]

I have several buddies that run the 37x12.5x16.5 Military Goodyear Humvee tires  on one ton rigs cheve fords and dodges. Great wear and traction for most users  that are 70% on road 30% off road. Expensive brand new bu can be had used for reasonable.

[rtspring]

I disagree with all of you that say the Toyo MT is no good in snow. I run 37'S and have always been thrilled with these tires in the snow, mud, rock, whatever.. Best tires I  :twocents:have ever owned and will not buy anything else. I do not have a Diesel, but the people I do know that have them have alot of trouble with the weight of the engine.  Good friend has a 07  Dodge Diesel with Toyo 37'S  and that piece of chit cant even back out of camp without being in 4 LOW.....

[buglebuster]

BF Goodrich A/T no questions asked

[CementFinisher]

My copper mt's do great in all conditions, being a true mt they wear a little faster on the pavement but fair better than my last set of toyos. If you take your rig off pavement i like the cooper mts

[Armadillo]

BF Goodrich A/T no questions asked

  nuff said

If you get into the mud or snow or sand simply air the tires down and your good to go.. then once you're back on pavement air them back up and enjoy the smooth ride home. I found that the times where a mud tire are useful only account for maybe (at the most) 5% of my total driving. Id rather use a BFG A/T for the other 95% of the rough gravel roads and pavement I'll be on. 

[swanny]

I have had the Goodyear Wrangler AT/MT combo tire that they make. I've been super impressed with it in mud and snow, they have gone every where I have needed them too. I was able to get them for $185 a piece too by shopping around on the internet and getting a price match from Discount Tire. The only downside I have found is they do throw rocks at your wheel wells on gravel roads.

[D-Rock425]

I like my toyo mt

[MuleySniper]

I disagree with all of you that say the Toyo MT is no good in snow. I run 37'S and have always been thrilled with these tires in the snow, mud, rock, whatever.. Best tires I  :twocents:have ever owned and will not buy anything else. I do not have a Diesel, but the people I do know that have them have alot of trouble with the weight of the engine.  Good friend has a 07  Dodge Diesel with Toyo 37'S  and that piece of chit cant even back out of camp without being in 4 LOW.....

That's why you have good luck in the snow.... Your rig prob doesn't come close to weighing 7500lbs and doesn't have 750+ foot pounds of torque
The best snow tire/truck application I ever had was my 98 Toyota Tacoma, 2.7ltr, 33" Toyo AT's syped. That truck was like Rudy Galindo on snow and ice I can't believe I used that comparison...
MS

[Special T]

I should have mentioned that the 16.5 rims will only fir the older  dodges 02 and older i think  won't fit over the new dodge brake calipers. 

[Raul Duke]

I got 285/75/17 Toyo MT on my Dodge and love them. I Mud TerainSXT before and they worked well also.

[TheSkyBuster]

as the only TIA certified guy on here lol

Hey.... I resemble that remark.   I've been TIA certrified since it was called ITRA 

I'm running Toyo HT's on a stock chevy (LT265-75R16/8 ) and I have yet to get into a situation that I feel AT's or MT's would have made much difference. In the snow I put my chains on.  and my rig rides nice on the Highway. 65,000 miles and counting

[The Weazle]

I have a chevy 3/4 ton diesel, and the toyo A/T's I had were gone in 17,000, and I mean bald.  I rotated them, aired them correctly everything...I thought it might be my fault, and like a dumb ass bought them again.  19,000 miles later, bald as a baby's ass...Bought the toyo M-55's this time, and have about 10,000 on them and they still look brand new.  The M-55 also performs very well in mud and snow, but they are pretty loud on the highway...Every person I know with toyo M/T's or A/T's on a diesel only get 25-30k out of them...I would love to see the proof of anyone getting over that on a set of a/t's or m/t's in a diesel pickup.

[Raul Duke]

as the only TIA certified guy on here lol

  I've been TIA certrified since it was called ITRA 

Wow so now theres 3 of us. :beer for my schwabies: 

[throttlejocky20]

35X12.50x18 BFG KM2's love them I ran the original Km's and almost got 60K out of them. As for mud tires not being good in the snow are you talking about packed snow on the road or plowing fresh tracks in powder. Snow is the only reason I have mud tires and will never go to anything different. I have been to many places my truck should have never been, held stady throttle and let the tires work.

[predatorpro]

lol might as well just throw some pitbull tires on there

[CAMPMEAT]

I hate to say it fellas, you guys love those M/Ts in the snow, but, you don't live where you have snow 4-6 months out of the year. They suck big time for snow and ice.

[Special T]

I would say for most people in your situation Some kind of AT would be best, and then buy a set of link Chains to throw in the truck.  Most people want the aggressive look on their rig, and if you don't put a lot of miles on it you'll be ok. A/T always wear better than MT. The larger the gap between the lugs the more prone to wear it is. Some M/T are better than others. Everyone that i know that loves the Toyo MT have light rigs, many with 1 tons have poor success. 

[predatorpro]

another big problem with the toyo m/t is almost everyone over inflates them, they are made to run at low air pressures, alot of people with diesels run them at like 60 or 70 psi which is too high for them, and you have to rotate them every 3000 miles not every 15000

[Todd_ID]

another big problem with the toyo m/t is almost everyone over inflates them, they are made to run at low air pressures, alot of people with diesels run them at like 60 or 70 psi which is too high for them, and you have to rotate them every 3000 miles not every 15000

The guys at our Schwaab said that guys in our area never make the warranty mileage on tires.  I got 22k on Toyo M/T's and 24k on Open Country A/T's with my 1 ton Dodge.  Not overly impressed to say the least.  However, it's hard to haul a load of firewood with your tires at 50 psi without looking like they're flat.  At 70 psi, they at least appear to be a bit better with 4000# on there along with a 7500# truck.  The stock tires at 90 psi looked much better, but had no resistance to flats.  At least with the Toyo's I don't get flat tires.  With the Cooper Discoverer's I had 5 flats in 4 months, and I took them back for a refund.  Thinking about getting the M-55's to try, but at $1500 for only 4 tires they'd better be damn impressive!

[spookgus]

I was frustrated with flats from rocks breaking through the tread until a logger fiend recommended the M-55. I am not saying they are the best but it worked for me.

[Special T]

Air pressure is key to wear and performance for ANY tire. All manufactures of Heavy Equiptment tires have Load Speed and Air pressure charts to show how to get the best life out of the tires. They don't do it for over the road tires, i'm guessing for liabilty reasons. Most people with 1 tons should likely run about 50psi in thier tires except when they toss on a heavy load, or towing, then bump up the pressure  to the max or near. Impact breaks on  shot rock from logging roads are likely due to too much air pressure, drivign to fast and or not enough tread on the tire. Rubber helps cushion the belt package when at max PSI. My brother a Mech for a logging co never compleatly wears out his tires. He normally has an impact break at 15-25% Tread left. Since he drives a service truck and is alwasy loaded he runs max pressure... At the same time i know loggers that run 80-90psi on thier logging truck rigs, when the max psi is 110. They say that the tire flexes around the rocks and they have less impact breaks. 

[JLS]

I would say for most people in your situation Some kind of AT would be best, and then buy a set of link Chains to throw in the truck.  Most people want the aggressive look on their rig, and if you don't put a lot of miles on it you'll be ok. A/T always wear better than MT. The larger the gap between the lugs the more prone to wear it is. Some M/T are better than others. Everyone that i know that loves the Toyo MT have light rigs, many with 1 tons have poor success. 

The M/T style tires also have greater rolling resistance because of the deep, wide lugs.  Therefore, your fuel economy suffers.  Also, without siping them the M/T tires will not be nearly as good on ice and packed snow.  They look cool, but for practicality the A/T tires will serve much better.  I can't afford the cool looks, so I go with A/T and a 50k treadwear warranty.  I could care less if they make it to 50k because that'll be pro rated off of my next set.

[MtnMuley]

Toyo M55's are the best overall all-around tire for all year if you spend a lot of time in the hills.   I don't support Les Schwab, but if I did, that'd be all I ever bought for every rig.

[swanny]

I have had the Goodyear Wrangler AT/MT combo tire that they make. I've been super impressed with it in mud and snow, they have gone every where I have needed them too. I was able to get them for $185 a piece too by shopping around on the internet and getting a price match from Discount Tire. The only downside I have found is they do throw rocks at your wheel wells on gravel roads.

Here's the link to what I have...I really like them and certainly recommend them.
http://www.goodyeartires.com/tire/wrangler-duratrac/

[teanawayslayer]

Toyo M55's are the best overall all-around tire for all year if you spend a lot of time in the hills.   I don't support Les Schwab, but if I did, that'd be all I ever bought for every rig.

[whacker1]

My complaint has always been what Schwabs gets for Toyo MT in $.   Very expensive tire package.

I was fairly impressed with the Pro-Comp Mud Terrains that I ran through my last set. They were not on a diesel, but a couple of friends have run the Pro Comp x-treme AT on their Diesel's and gotten good wear.  I got 38k on my MT's and took them off with at least another 5000 miles left on them.  1 tire was a little worse off from where I through the truck out of alignment for 600 miles.

This time I went with the Fierce Tires - Fierce Attitude MT by Goodyear.  I have 10,000 miles on them so far and they seem to be wearing quite well.  50% of the cost of Toyo Mt in the size I bought.  I should get 40k miles or better based on the way they have warn so far.  I went with a narrower tire to improve gas mileage and reduce cost of the tire.  235/ 85 / 16 in a 10 ply tire.  32 x 9.5 on an F150.

[Rick]

You guys do realize that you can buy Toyos at stores other than Les Schwab.

Discount tire will special order ANY tire you want,and sell them to you for about 30% less than LS will.

[Rick]

Toyo M55's are the best overall all-around tire for all year if you spend a lot of time in the hills.   I don't support Les Schwab, but if I did, that'd be all I ever bought for every rig.

The problem with the M55s is the very limited selection of sizes they come in. They are an outstanding tire though.

[MtnMuley]

Toyo M55's are the best overall all-around tire for all year if you spend a lot of time in the hills.   I don't support Les Schwab, but if I did, that'd be all I ever bought for every rig.

The problem with the M55s is the very limited selection of sizes they come in. They are an outstanding tire though.

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You're exactly right.  They seem to be getting even more limited also.

[BallisticsNut]

You guys do realize that you can buy Toyos at stores other than Les Schwab.

Discount tire will special order ANY tire you want,and sell them to you for about 30% less than LS will.

Check out Tire Rack.  http://www.tirerack.com

I almost picked up my tires and rims there, they were cheaper then Les Schwab even with shipping and with new sensors installed.  The tires come, mounted and balanced to your door.  All you have to do is put them on.  The only reason I didnt get them there was because the rims I wanted where literally on a slow boat from China.  They could only find three rims in stock anywhere in the US, so I waited about two weeks then cancelled my order and went to see my old friend Les. 

[C-Money]

I run the snot out of Firestone Transforce AT's. Work and personnel trucks.

[blacklab-123]

I run cooper stt 33x1250 15 on my 1977 cj7 and love them, and cooper tires are made in the USA, not japan

[huntnfmly]

just put a set of 35x12.50/15 bfg   km2 great tire ran the original km got over 70,000 and ran bfg a/t and got over 70,000 to good of a track record for me to switch brands they are on a k1500

[netcoyote]

I have been using nothing but BFG T/A KO tires on my trucks for the about the last 10 years.
http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/tire-selector/name/all-terrain-t-a-ko-tires
Got em now on '98 Dodge Ram Diesel, 2004 Dakota and a '97 Nissan, all 4x4s. Usually get around 70k life out of them and they are great in snow...less so in mud.
Only remember 1 flat in all those years on 4 different trucks, all of 'em driven on mountain roads and one driven hauling horse trailer regularly.
Usually get mine at Discount Tire...they are not offered at LS as far as I know.

[gonehuntin68]

dont ever buy Wilcat A/T from les schwab worst tire ever made