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Author Topic: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game! (Poll added)  (Read 41716 times)

Offline Lowedog

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For those that are interested there are tons of videos on youtube testing mech bh's.  You can find guys shooting them through anything from metal to actual ribs and shoulder blades from animals.  I was very surprised at how some of them performed and held up.  There are some that don't hold up at all but as we all probably know there are a bunch of fixed blades that are total crap also. 

As I posted before, a friend of mines father who lives in MT uses nothing but Rage mechs for elk and has never had an issue.  Says they cut a massive hole too.   

If I were going to use them I would definitely do my research and testing on my own.   

I have not voted on the poll because without some real world experience with mechs I cannot say I would choose them over fixed. 

Edit: just looked at question for poll again.  Thought that it was choose one or the other.  I will vote yes on legalizing them. 
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yeah i dont know what to tell ya because for 30 yrs I have used only one broadhead and that is a wasp ... the last 10 yrs I have shot a wasp boss which only has a 1 1/4 cutting edge and I have shot threw shoulders many times on elk and deer and the blood trail has been a blood bath and nothen I can remember went over 50 yrds before flopping over... I is all about arrow placement ... its just like someone saying I use a 300 ultra mag and nothen will get away ...WRONG ...  :yike:

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So as to not have any...what do they call it…revisionist history on here, the following is from Jay St. C.’s website:
 
Over the Winter of '52-'53 my father, Glenn St. Charles, launched a new and exciting project: a full working recurve bow limbed bow utilizing a relatively new material - fiberglass - in combination with hardwood laminations. Most innovative were its long handle riser and relatively its short fully working recurved limbs.
At the time of its introduction in the Spring of 1953 the St. Charles Thunderbird recurve was truely unique in its design. By the Spring of 1957 nearly all recurve bows in production mirrored the Thunderbird's basic style.
 
So for the record, Bear built and launched its working recurve in '53, but it wasn't the first fiberglass working recurve.
To respond to this, I am fully aware of Glenn's contribution, as my own beginnings in Archery began at NW Archery in Des Moines, I am friends with the whole family, and felt a great loss at Glenns passing...
I took my NBEF course in the museum and have hunted with Joe StCharles (he even helped pack out my Elk) I spent countless hours in that shop (and a lot of money), just listening to stories and drinking their coffee, however in the "history" of Archery, Fred gets the credit because he mass produced the bows, while Glenn only made a couple hundred.
(Also the first fiberglass and even the aluminum in Bears Grizzly's and Kodiaks '49-'51 came from Boeing Surplus, sold to Fred by Glenn)
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Also, I am aware that there were other  "curved" bows made earlier by other cultures, but the limb did not fully use the "recurve" as a forward  (or working) motion, merely allowed a shorter bow to have more power.
My statement were/are merely meant to illustrate my point, actual discussion on Archery History is a whole different topic.
Thank you for pointing it out, but did not mean to  :jacked:
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Yes, Bear Archery mass-produced them; but to say they "developed" the process might be miscontrued as meaning they were the first to use fiberglass in that design, but from everything I've read and heard that is not the case. As I understand it St Charles was the first, he showed it to Bear and within months afterwards Bear had their version out on the market. The rest is history...
 
And you do a very good job of illustrating your points, Stik. Keep it up!
I'd just like to remind everybody that it's about the hunting, not just the killing. In other words, it's about the total experience, the sport itself and the challenge involved. Bowhunting, done right, is a justifiable and honorable pursuit. Done for the wrong reasons, simply chalking up kills and seeking personal glory, it's taking away rather than giving back to a principled way of life that has to be experienced to be understood. G.StCharles

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Looks like were all tied up on our expandible or not poll!
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well I better vote to get this thing out of a tie, gotta say no on this one. reason: penetration, stability, and reliability.

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Hmm tie again....
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Nope.
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Dang! I should have locked the poll when it was close!  :chuckle:
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Vote early, vote often! :chuckle:
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How do I vote again?  :chuckle:
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It seems the table has turned! ..........for now.
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why do u all want to screw everyone, vote yes to expandibles and dont use them if you dont want to, if they suck so much then why does all the other states say yes

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This is a testament to how many passionate hunters want the regs changed when it comes to these particular items.

I bet if we did a poll of illuminocks and 209 ignitions we would find the same results! :)

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Why would we not legalize them +209primers + scopes on muzzys + lighted nocks. then and whoever wants to use them can. if you dont want to use them then dont. I blows my mind that someone wouldnt want to let someone use a lighted nocke to follow the sight of there arrow better or to find the arrow to see if there is blood on it. or scopes to make a better shot placement. but if you dont want to then dont. But the people that do should be allowed to. :twocents:

 


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