410 hwy. Gold ck and Rock creek roads washed out and wont be fixed

[Instinct]

Bonfire, gas, and fireworks anyone  nnaw jp but its sad that the forestry has to think in those terms

[PlateauNDN]

so the 1701 rd is still open? I thought someone told me it was also closed.

Was on 1701 this past Sunday from 410 to Barber Springs Road.  Only one small washout, nothing bad.  Lots of jeeps up there this weekend tearing up the hills.

Is this the only way into the Barber Springs area now?  Buddy of mine heading to the west side today took a quick detour for a short scout and Manastash road was closed.  I plan on heading over to scout next weekend and am wondering if I'm gonna have to cut down to Yakima then up 410 to the 1701, as it sounds like there may be no way in out of Ellensburg.

Head south from E-burg towards the Wenas and turn north onto the Observatory Rd and head west from there til you get to the mud flats rd and head west from there or you can stay on the observatory rd until you get near it then break off and head west from there and you will eventually hit barber springs leading to the 410. 

[CedarPants]

Thanks Plateau!

[boneaddict]

Let it burn only stands for Wilderness.  Anything outside of wilderness still gets attention.

[gasman]

Let it burn only stands for Wilderness.  Anything outside of wilderness still gets attention.

And National Parks. Like Mt Rainier and Yellowstone NP.

[boneaddict]

correct.

[Nilehunter]

I just came back for the Nile area and they have closed roads up there..The culvert on the 1601 road, at the nile, is washed out and one side of the culvert is caved in. The 1605 road is closed with three washout areas. Talked to one of the Game people and she said the same as already stated, are not going to fix due to lack of funds. They have put in for some flood relief money.

Two weeks ago, the wife and I walked the 1605 all the way down to the creek and there was only one wash out.  I could have gotten past it in my minni van.  So I do not get why its closed.  This last weekend the closed road sign was moved to the side, wishfull thinking had me hopeing the road was being worked on.  If not I'll get in there from the back side come season.

[sled]

  ALL BULLS#$@#T!!!!!!!!!

[Smokey Bear]

OK guys, maybe a stupid question but when it says "closed to all traffic" does that mean you can't even hike passed the closure?  I have a bull tag for Peaches and would love to get up into the Milk Creek area??  I am going over Tuesday and Wednesday to scout.  It will be temtping to not take my quad up into Milk Creek from Little Naches.

[rtspring]

As bad as this may seem at first. I hope the animals in this area gain from it.  I know these are some peoples favorite hunting grounds but if it helps the deer populations come back I am all for it..

there is a road in between milk creek and gold creek they closed back in the 90's. It was a highway for vehicles back in the day. Now people ride horses up in there and see lots of game....

[colockumelk]

As bad as this may seem at first. I hope the animals in this area gain from it.  I know these are some peoples favorite hunting grounds but if it helps the deer populations come back I am all for it..

there is a road in between milk creek and gold creek they closed back in the 90's. It was a highway for vehicles back in the day. Now people ride horses up in there and see lots of game....

I completely agree. While this closure sucks for many I try to look at the bright side of things inall negative events.  Hopefully the animal numbers and bull:cow,  buck:doe ratio gets alot better because of this. Also the best part is that this will put a major dent in poaching. Thats what Im happiest about.

[gasman]

there are still ways to access this area. you just need to know where and be willing to burn some boot leather if you don't have a capable 4x4.
Th snowmobile trail from the LN area is one way to get in to it and the 4x4 trail from Lilly pond is another......

And there is still others if you know where you are goung and have spent any time exploring up there.......

[SniperDanWA]

I just returned from Umtanum and Manastash.  Drove in from 410 side on 1701, Maloy RD, Barber Springs, Manastash Ridge, Hudson, Mitchell, NF 31, Manastash, etc.  Made it to within 6-8 miles of Ellensburg and the road was gated shut from that direction.  The road was washed out but passable.  Walked around to see if I could bypass gate, but FS pushed rock and log against passable routes.  Turned around and went West on Manastash to NF 3104 and washed out again.  Thought about Kloss RD, but saw a 5x7 signed posted by FS that it was washed out 3 miles in.  New no other route out, so backtracked up to 1701 to get out.  Wasn't too bad in most places.  Can't recall right now if it was Barber Springs or Manastash Ridge/Hudson, but one had a pretty gnarly washout that I did not attempt with the Suburban.  Took some pretty good dips today and glassed the valleys, hills, etc. No elk, three deer, lots of sheep and some cows (domestic), and a bunch of wood cutters.  After I got on 410, I saw several cows, spikes, a 4 by bull and some more deer.  Everything working it's way to the water for the night drink.  Good day though.

[Smokey Bear]

I know many ways to access the closed road areas, but once you are back there with a quad or a bike, you are illegal.  For instance, the Milk Creek road is closed for the entire length of it.  I suppose you could quad up to the closed road, then camp off the trail somewhere.  But the minute you start using the road you are illegal.  The LE Rangers up there are citing everyone, or so I've heard.  After a busy Labor Day Weekend they won't be ready to give a break because you are probably the 200th violator they have encountered!  Believe me, if you can get up to or around a road closure, so can they. 

I just hope Lttle Naches isn't worse of a zoo than last season.

 

[dreamingbig]

I will say it again.  Closing these roads to man powered mountain bikes is absurd.  Are they really going to issue a ticket for a mountain bike?  What risk or liability is there?