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ITT: Completely ignorant set of questions
« on: July 17, 2011, 07:08:44 AM »
I am under the assumption that Central Washington mule deer breed later in the calendar year than Eastern Washington whitetail and Western Washington blacktail, is this correct?  If so, does that mean they drop fawns later as well?  Does anyone have a good estimate on when each species breeds and when they drop fawns?  I know blacktail breed late oct, early nov. and drop fawns in May.

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Re: ITT: Completely ignorant set of questions
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2011, 08:07:29 AM »
I always see fawns over here by Memorial Day.
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Re: ITT: Completely ignorant set of questions
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2011, 08:56:04 AM »
Blacktails and mule deer are pretty much the same, as far as I know. Not sure about whitetails since I don't live or hunt over there, but I think the rut for them falls somewhere in the first half of November, which would also be the same as the other two species.

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Re: ITT: Completely ignorant set of questions
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2011, 09:00:35 AM »
By the way, what the heck does "ITT" mean?   :dunno:

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Re: ITT: Completely ignorant set of questions
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2011, 09:07:38 AM »
By the way, what the heck does "ITT" mean?   :dunno:

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Re: ITT: Completely ignorant set of questions
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2011, 09:11:31 AM »
Ive seen mulies sparring and chasing eachother off during the 08 modern season in the middle of the day so Im gonna say they rut about the same time depending on the area maybe?
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Re: ITT: Completely ignorant set of questions
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2011, 09:32:37 AM »
By the way, what the heck does "ITT" mean?   :dunno:

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Re: ITT: Completely ignorant set of questions
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2011, 11:56:05 AM »
I've seen BT rut into early December......  I''ve also seen MD rut like crazy in one drainage during early ML season and no rut activity at all in the next.....  Sometimes all the cards are out the window on predicting the rut.....  :twocents:

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Re: ITT: Completely ignorant set of questions
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2011, 12:01:56 PM »
The RUT is always about the same time, But some does come into estrus early and then some late.

So there is truly no way to know the answer.
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Re: ITT: Completely ignorant set of questions
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2011, 12:05:47 PM »
I think the rut is actually very predictable. The does come into heat at the same time every year. Sure you may see earlier, or later, rutting behavior by the bucks, which can be affected by differences in weather and possibly differences in buck to doe ratios in different areas. The really late rutting behavior you see in December would be due to does that come into heat for the 2nd time because they didn't get bred a month prior, when they came into heat the first time.

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Re: ITT: Completely ignorant set of questions
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2011, 01:08:28 PM »
How do bucks behave when the doe to buck ration is largely offset.  IE 30 to 1.  I have a trail camera soaking on private property and see nothing but does, and lots of them...
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Re: ITT: Completely ignorant set of questions
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2011, 01:19:15 PM »
I agree I think does come into estrus at the same time but choose not to be bred by lesser bucks. So if the more mature bucks are not present they don't get bred on their first cycle. I think the light triggers estrus but weather determines when the mature mule deer arrive. Wt and bts seem to be less migratory imo...

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Re: ITT: Completely ignorant set of questions
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2011, 03:31:33 PM »
i think it depends on the year .my blacktail that i shot last year was in full rut oct.23. and hes been in rut for some time .becouse the neck had been streached long enough to have the neck the same.on my mount.i seen a few mulys opening weekend last year that the necks were starting to swell.

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Re: ITT: Completely ignorant set of questions
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2011, 10:48:04 PM »
From what I have seen around here..the Mule deer are abit earlier than the whiteys.. I have seen whiteys rutting hard while the mule deer seem to be done with very little rutting activity...this is lowland. Now the high counrty mule deer and whitetails seem to rut abit earlier than there lowland counterparts

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Re: ITT: Completely ignorant set of questions
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2011, 11:10:47 PM »
I agree with huntnnw. I see muleys (NE corner) that are rutting HARD during rifle elk. Had this guy within 15 yards and he didn't care about me.....
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