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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #421 on: October 18, 2011, 02:59:12 PM »
Indians being the greedy people they are they can't leave anything alone. All the land they can hunt all year long and its not good enough. nope they have to have hanford too. Who cares if your ancestors hunted there. They didn't use guns when they did it so why should the tribe be able to now? They also didn't have motor vehicles and electricity. Nope that all came from the white man. So instead of the tribes thinking they don't have enough and need more places to hunt be happy with what yall got.
The same could be said of many white people as well.  Some people just can't be content with what they have.  Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with the whole scenario and would prefer we all be treated equal, but to say they are greedy because of a few isn't a fair assessment.  If they all acted like PlateauNDN appears to act and talk I don't think we would have near the issues that we do have.  I still would prefer that we were all treated as equals though.  Hasn't racial discrimination gone on long enough in this country.  I hate to see anything that gives or takes away something from a person because of there race.  Bear

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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #422 on: October 18, 2011, 04:43:04 PM »
Very good post Bear. Well said.
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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #423 on: October 18, 2011, 08:57:56 PM »
This thread is getting lame without big bull picturs. Honestly thats the only reason I check it every day. To see a big bull or to see a conviction for poaching.  :twocents:

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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #424 on: October 19, 2011, 01:02:59 AM »
Okay MAXIMUS I found your question after looking through this topic, it was on page 13 if I'm correct, in regards to your wife being an enrolled member of the Yakama Nation and what privileges you might have?

Per SECTION 32.110.49; UNAUTHORIZED TREATY HUNTING.

Subsection (A)  It shall be unlawful for a Yakama Member to:

(2)  Allow a person who is not authorized to exercise Treaty Hunting rights to hunt or take wildlife for him or her, or to assist him or her in exercising such rights.

Subsection (C)  This Section shall not apply to any non-member identified as:

(1)  The spouse, dependent (including adopted or foster), or extended family relative of the Yakama Member;

This is applies to the Reservation only and she would have to be with you at all times.  Outside of the Reservation State Law applies to you and only she would be able to hunt the Ceded Lands.

If you have any other questions don't hesitate to ask.

So if I read this correctly...I can hunt ceded lands because I married an enrolled member of Yakima Nation? She has to be with me. Can I hunt 12 months out of the year?

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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #425 on: October 19, 2011, 02:01:15 AM »
Indians being the greedy people they are they can't leave anything alone. All the land they can hunt all year long and its not good enough. nope they have to have hanford too. Who cares if your ancestors hunted there. They didn't use guns when they did it so why should the tribe be able to now? They also didn't have motor vehicles and electricity. Nope that all came from the white man. So instead of the tribes thinking they don't have enough and need more places to hunt be happy with what yall got.
The same could be said of many white people as well.  Some people just can't be content with what they have.  Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with the whole scenario and would prefer we all be treated equal, but to say they are greedy because of a few isn't a fair assessment.  If they all acted like PlateauNDN appears to act and talk I don't think we would have near the issues that we do have.  I still would prefer that we were all treated as equals though.  Hasn't racial discrimination gone on long enough in this country.  I hate to see anything that gives or takes away something from a person because of there race.  Bear

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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #426 on: October 19, 2011, 05:03:46 AM »
Thats a good post Bear and expresses where I am with the issue.

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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #427 on: October 19, 2011, 06:47:36 AM »
Okay MAXIMUS I found your question after looking through this topic, it was on page 13 if I'm correct, in regards to your wife being an enrolled member of the Yakama Nation and what privileges you might have?

Per SECTION 32.110.49; UNAUTHORIZED TREATY HUNTING.

Subsection (A)  It shall be unlawful for a Yakama Member to:

(2)  Allow a person who is not authorized to exercise Treaty Hunting rights to hunt or take wildlife for him or her, or to assist him or her in exercising such rights.

Subsection (C)  This Section shall not apply to any non-member identified as:

(1)  The spouse, dependent (including adopted or foster), or extended family relative of the Yakama Member;

This is applies to the Reservation only and she would have to be with you at all times.  Outside of the Reservation State Law applies to you and only she would be able to hunt the Ceded Lands.

If you have any other questions don't hesitate to ask.

So if I read this correctly...I can hunt ceded lands because I married an enrolled member of Yakima Nation? She has to be with me. Can I hunt 12 months out of the year?

I didn't read it that way Max ....

"This is applies to the Reservation only and she would have to be with you at all times.  Outside of the Reservation State Law applies to you and only she would be able to hunt the Ceded Lands."

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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #428 on: October 19, 2011, 08:53:26 AM »
Okay MAXIMUS I found your question after looking through this topic, it was on page 13 if I'm correct, in regards to your wife being an enrolled member of the Yakama Nation and what privileges you might have?

Per SECTION 32.110.49; UNAUTHORIZED TREATY HUNTING.

Subsection (A)  It shall be unlawful for a Yakama Member to:

(2)  Allow a person who is not authorized to exercise Treaty Hunting rights to hunt or take wildlife for him or her, or to assist him or her in exercising such rights.

Subsection (C)  This Section shall not apply to any non-member identified as:

(1)  The spouse, dependent (including adopted or foster), or extended family relative of the Yakama Member;

This is applies to the Reservation only and she would have to be with you at all times.  Outside of the Reservation State Law applies to you and only she would be able to hunt the Ceded Lands.

If you have any other questions don't hesitate to ask.

So if I read this correctly...I can hunt ceded lands because I married an enrolled member of Yakima Nation? She has to be with me. Can I hunt 12 months out of the year?

I didn't read it that way Max ....

"This is applies to the Reservation only and she would have to be with you at all times.  Outside of the Reservation State Law applies to you and only she would be able to hunt the Ceded Lands."

 :yeah:  You have access to the Closed Areas of the Reservation and can hunt the Reservation as long as YOU follow OUR guidelines.  SHE has to be with YOU at all times and have HER enrollment card with HER at all times.  YOU cannot access the Closed Area of the Rez without HER or hunt without HER.  Ceded Area does not apply to YOU.  Ceded Area only applies to Enrolled Tribal Members and are the only ones able to exercise their Treaty Rights.

YOU can only hunt the Rez year round for male species and SHE has to be present at all times.  Female species are closed to hunting From Jan. 1 to Aug. 31. 

Does that clarify it better for you?
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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #429 on: October 19, 2011, 09:02:18 AM »
Okay MAXIMUS I found your question after looking through this topic, it was on page 13 if I'm correct, in regards to your wife being an enrolled member of the Yakama Nation and what privileges you might have?

Per SECTION 32.110.49; UNAUTHORIZED TREATY HUNTING.

Subsection (A)  It shall be unlawful for a Yakama Member to:

(2)  Allow a person who is not authorized to exercise Treaty Hunting rights to hunt or take wildlife for him or her, or to assist him or her in exercising such rights.

Subsection (C)  This Section shall not apply to any non-member identified as:

(1)  The spouse, dependent (including adopted or foster), or extended family relative of the Yakama Member;

This is applies to the Reservation only and she would have to be with you at all times.  Outside of the Reservation State Law applies to you and only she would be able to hunt the Ceded Lands.

If you have any other questions don't hesitate to ask.

So if I read this correctly...I can hunt ceded lands because I married an enrolled member of Yakima Nation? She has to be with me. Can I hunt 12 months out of the year?

I didn't read it that way Max ....

"This is applies to the Reservation only and she would have to be with you at all times.  Outside of the Reservation State Law applies to you and only she would be able to hunt the Ceded Lands."

 :yeah:  You have access to the Closed Areas of the Reservation and can hunt the Reservation as long as YOU follow OUR guidelines.  SHE has to be with YOU at all times and have HER enrollment card with HER at all times.  YOU cannot access the Closed Area of the Rez without HER or hunt without HER.  Ceded Area does not apply to YOU.  Ceded Area only applies to Enrolled Tribal Members and are the only ones able to exercise their Treaty Rights.

YOU can only hunt the Rez year round for male species and SHE has to be present at all times.  Female species are closed to hunting From Jan. 1 to Aug. 31. 

Does that clarify it better for you?

I think this is ironic. I doubt the tribe intends for non-members to have hunting rights, but due to the nature of tribal hunting, through this loophole a lot of non-members get to hunt the reservations. I know of a lot of guys who have used this loophole to their advantage. I don't really care, it doesn't affect me or most of of you on this forum, but you have to admit with all the bitching about tribal hunting, it's ironic that non-members are hunting the reservations in this way.  :yike:
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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #430 on: October 19, 2011, 09:09:30 AM »
Okay MAXIMUS I found your question after looking through this topic, it was on page 13 if I'm correct, in regards to your wife being an enrolled member of the Yakama Nation and what privileges you might have?

Per SECTION 32.110.49; UNAUTHORIZED TREATY HUNTING.

Subsection (A)  It shall be unlawful for a Yakama Member to:

(2)  Allow a person who is not authorized to exercise Treaty Hunting rights to hunt or take wildlife for him or her, or to assist him or her in exercising such rights.

Subsection (C)  This Section shall not apply to any non-member identified as:

(1)  The spouse, dependent (including adopted or foster), or extended family relative of the Yakama Member;

This is applies to the Reservation only and she would have to be with you at all times.  Outside of the Reservation State Law applies to you and only she would be able to hunt the Ceded Lands.

If you have any other questions don't hesitate to ask.

So if I read this correctly...I can hunt ceded lands because I married an enrolled member of Yakima Nation? She has to be with me. Can I hunt 12 months out of the year?

I didn't read it that way Max ....

"This is applies to the Reservation only and she would have to be with you at all times.  Outside of the Reservation State Law applies to you and only she would be able to hunt the Ceded Lands."

 :yeah:  You have access to the Closed Areas of the Reservation and can hunt the Reservation as long as YOU follow OUR guidelines.  SHE has to be with YOU at all times and have HER enrollment card with HER at all times.  YOU cannot access the Closed Area of the Rez without HER or hunt without HER.  Ceded Area does not apply to YOU.  Ceded Area only applies to Enrolled Tribal Members and are the only ones able to exercise their Treaty Rights.

YOU can only hunt the Rez year round for male species and SHE has to be present at all times.  Female species are closed to hunting From Jan. 1 to Aug. 31. 

Does that clarify it better for you?

Wow Plateau where are you from? Spouse have no hunting privileges on or off the Rez. I do like the way that you look into stuff before you comment but some of your answers make me feel that your are not from the Rez. No disrespect to you Plat. I do appreciate what you do because I flip out trying to deal with some people on this site and start popping off.

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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #431 on: October 19, 2011, 09:12:26 AM »
Okay MAXIMUS I found your question after looking through this topic, it was on page 13 if I'm correct, in regards to your wife being an enrolled member of the Yakama Nation and what privileges you might have?

Per SECTION 32.110.49; UNAUTHORIZED TREATY HUNTING.

Subsection (A)  It shall be unlawful for a Yakama Member to:

(2)  Allow a person who is not authorized to exercise Treaty Hunting rights to hunt or take wildlife for him or her, or to assist him or her in exercising such rights.

Subsection (C)  This Section shall not apply to any non-member identified as:

(1)  The spouse, dependent (including adopted or foster), or extended family relative of the Yakama Member;

This is applies to the Reservation only and she would have to be with you at all times.  Outside of the Reservation State Law applies to you and only she would be able to hunt the Ceded Lands.

If you have any other questions don't hesitate to ask.

So if I read this correctly...I can hunt ceded lands because I married an enrolled member of Yakima Nation? She has to be with me. Can I hunt 12 months out of the year?

I didn't read it that way Max ....

"This is applies to the Reservation only and she would have to be with you at all times.  Outside of the Reservation State Law applies to you and only she would be able to hunt the Ceded Lands."

 :yeah:  You have access to the Closed Areas of the Reservation and can hunt the Reservation as long as YOU follow OUR guidelines.  SHE has to be with YOU at all times and have HER enrollment card with HER at all times.  YOU cannot access the Closed Area of the Rez without HER or hunt without HER.  Ceded Area does not apply to YOU.  Ceded Area only applies to Enrolled Tribal Members and are the only ones able to exercise their Treaty Rights.

YOU can only hunt the Rez year round for male species and SHE has to be present at all times.  Female species are closed to hunting From Jan. 1 to Aug. 31. 

Does that clarify it better for you?

Wow Plateau where are you from? Spouse have no hunting privileges on or off the Rez. I do like the way that you look into stuff before you comment but some of your answers make me feel that your are not from the Rez. No disrespect to you Plat. I do appreciate what you do because I flip out trying to deal with some people on this site and start popping off.

That is from OUR own hunting regs. and you can look it up yourself YakNDN.  I was born, raised and graduated from here.  The only time I left was when I was in the Marines.  After that came back and have lived, worked and played here.  My current living status is in Yakima because I had a job up here and wanted to be closer but as fate has it I landed a better paying job back with the Tribe and haven't had the opportunity to move back yet.
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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #432 on: October 19, 2011, 09:19:36 AM »
I married a Colville, what the hell was I thinking not exercising my rights. LOL

She put Native American on her job application for the USFS...back in affirmative action days.  You should have seen their faces when a hot blonde showed up. LOL   Course the boss lady had a hispanic name and was also another hot blonde. :)

Now I have a daughter that is 1/16 or 1/32....can't remember.  She will never be enrolled. 

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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #433 on: October 19, 2011, 09:23:32 AM »
Yes, YakNDN I do research everything I comment on unless it's my own opinion.  I do that because I don't want to be the one that looks like a fool because I don't know what I'm talking about.  If I go to a meeting with City, County or State Officials do I really want to be the guy that doesn't know why he's there or what he's talking about?  No, not really. 

It's called being prepared and knowledgeable about any situation.  If I want to continue my employment then I need to know first hand what it is I'm talking about other wise everybody is going to question my motives, tactics and employment. 

So yes YakNDN I do do my research on any topic because having the knowledge and being prepared is better than not having it.
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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #434 on: October 19, 2011, 09:28:27 AM »
Ok Max let me tell you how it is and not how someone interprets it. At one time you were able to get a permit with your name on it that said you could kill one buck and one bull for your family on the rez. They stopped that about ten years ago. You could possibly get one depending on who her family is connected to. You may assist in hunting and gathering of traditional foods but need a permit to access the closed area, the permit states on it you may not carry a firearm. I dint need to look that up because I know what it says.

Subsection (A)  It shall be unlawful for a Yakama Member to:

(2)  Allow a person who is not authorized to exercise Treaty Hunting rights to hunt or take wildlife for him or her, or to assist him or her in exercising such rights.

Good luck getting authorized.  Last year even a Tribal Member was not able to carry a firearm if a permit holder in the vehicle.

 


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