Unit 111 - Prouty Loop Wolf Pack Attacks Dogs - 6 miles from Colville

[KillBilly]

Think the WDFW would get mad if they came to work one Monday and found 5 wolf pelts and an SD card with video of them attacking livestock or dogs on their front stoop?

The livestock might get ya off the hook but pets are not protected or compensated for.

[True Sportsman]

I think if that was my farm and my dogs and I saw wolves trying to attack them, I wouldve just shot as many as i could. You guys would never hear of it. I would make sure to anchor them with spine shots, so they cant escape. The wolves wouldve walked into a lead gauntlet, and not realized it, until it was too late...

[high country]

seth, wolves as well as coyotes, are adaptive.everything that has been studied of the wolves has been done in a very wild area or park, where human interaction is at a minimum. the current crop of predatory wolves introduced have to learn to get by on less abundant food sources and that means they need to head to th nearest light and there will be food there. this is a non issue in yellowstone where they have full time hazers to keep camps free of invasive predators. alaska has large herds of animals and the wolves can follow them with reasonable success. here in the areas affected we have much smaller herds, a large herd of elk may go 50 animals around me. compare that to the smaller herd sizes in alaksa and we are missing a comma or two.
 
the simple answer is that there is no answer as to what wolves will do. they have a strong predatory instinct, and I feel they do not like to be around people, but given that we have dropped them into areas with low numbers of food for them, people will be the food source, be it their childern, pets or selves.
 
it is noble that eco groups want to save the future of an animal that once roamed free here, but the landscape, climate, dispersment of humans increase of pets has taken the once home range of the wolves. to try to reintroduce them without ALL the original aspects of their successful existance is asking for trouble.
 
there is a good reason our forefathers killed them off.

Why do you use words like drop them in areas or re-introduce? It is only rumor that wolves have been transplanted in Washington. We may have Wolves that have migrated from other states but we have no dropped or re-introduced any wolves in this state

Drop comes from the kings lake release.  Reintroduce seems to be the best term to me for what the Montana, Wyoming, Idaho and now we are seeing. They did not magically appear, and while there may or may not have always been some.....they sure as heck are here.

What is your take on it?

[high country]

Kings lake is not too far from people, and the highest critter pop is back twards the people.

[sebek556]

Seth30, 
Read the link I have provided. It is written by Val Geist. This guy knows what he is talking about, and explains wolf behavior very clearly. Enjoy, it is a good read.

http://rliv.com/wolf/GeistStagesOfDepridation.pdf

but the hippies claim that wolves dont attack people at all never ever nope did not happen, they only want to cuddle
good read thanks for the post and great name!

[bearpaw]

Update:

The neighbors tell me the game warden came out to the guys house and said it definitely wasn't wolves. Not sure how he could tell days afterward, so I am very suspect of that statement, but that's the story in the neighborhood. So does that mean when they come back the guy can protect his dogs, some neighbors are thinking that statement makes it's safe to protect their pets and livestock. 

[JimmyHoffa]

In the WDFW commission meeting they make mention of the incident.  The commissioner brought it up and then the staff guy says they sent a warden and a biologist and said it couldn't be wolves.

[Wenatcheejay]

Update:

The neighbors tell me the game warden came out to the guys house and said it definitely wasn't wolves. Not sure how he could tell days afterward, so I am very suspect of that statement, but that's the story in the neighborhood. So does that mean when they come back the guy can protect his dogs, some neighbors are thinking that statement makes it's safe to protect their pets and livestock. 

What evidence was used to determine this?

[bearpaw]

All I know is that I heard they are claiming it wasn't wolves. I don't know if they have any evidence or if they just don't want it to be wolves. 

I do know that when I talked to the person who saw the wolves, he was sure. Read my first post. 

[Ridgeratt]

Simple just put a specimen on the LAWN! then let the dice roll! If they say they aren't the cause then ask them what is this.

[seth30]

 

[sebek556]

sounds like montana all over again, no that was not a wolf that killed your 800lb bull it was a yote that did it... right

[seth30]

sounds like montana all over again, no that was not a wolf that killed your 800lb bull it was a yote that did it... right

  no it was a pack of them, they run really deep when wolves are around

[Ridgeratt]

OK so here is a Google search word for you!!


Xylitol

My best guess is this will get me some heat!!

[Wenatcheejay]

All I know is that I heard they are claiming it wasn't wolves. I don't know if they have any evidence or if they just don't want it to be wolves. 

I do know that when I talked to the person who saw the wolves, he was sure. Read my first post. 

I hope he does not let it go. I question the evidence that it is not a wolf sighting. Maybe it is not, but what evidence is there that it isn't? If it is overly aggressive yotes OK, but it would be unfortunate if a person is arrested when it turns out it was not and they protected their animals or their life.

I am so tired of hearing of this cr@p.