Author Topic: using live goats?... (Read 7356 times)

D360 · « **on:** July 27, 2011, 08:24:00 PM »

would it be baiting if I tied one of our living goats to a tree somewhere and waited to see if a cougar (or any other predator) would show up? just letting my goat clear some brush while I sit in a stand with my bow lol

Kain · « **Reply #1 on:** July 27, 2011, 08:28:09 PM »

I have never seen anything where it says that live bait is illegal. The only bait that I know of that is illegal is edible parts of wild game.

singleshot12 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 27, 2011, 08:36:35 PM »

hmm? good question, I would think baiting is baiting though , dead or alive

BULLBLASTER · « **Reply #3 on:** July 27, 2011, 08:45:59 PM »

baiting for cougars is legal anyways

seth30 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 27, 2011, 08:56:34 PM »

and yotes

Kain · « **Reply #5 on:** July 27, 2011, 09:00:43 PM »

Baiting is legal for everything except bears and game birds.

BurleyDog · « **Reply #6 on:** July 27, 2011, 09:16:12 PM »

I used my ex-girlfriends mother's dog as coyote bait once. It was a mini dachshund. He whined and barked non stop so we brought him out to the pasture with us and let him do his thing. At first he was gunshy then he started loving it.

Honest to God he'd pee on every dead yote.

Kain · « **Reply #7 on:** July 27, 2011, 09:28:20 PM »

Quote from: BurleyDog on July 27, 2011, 09:16:12 PM

I used my ex-girlfriends mother's dog as coyote bait once. It was a mini dachshund. He whined and barked non stop so we brought him out to the pasture with us and let him do his thing. At first he was gunshy then he started loving it.

Honest to God he'd pee on every dead yote.

Decoy dogs are a great tactic for hunting coyotes. Unfortunately it is now illegal in this state.

BurleyDog · « **Reply #8 on:** July 27, 2011, 10:04:08 PM »

Quote from: Kain on July 27, 2011, 09:28:20 PM

Quote from: BurleyDog on July 27, 2011, 09:16:12 PM
I used my ex-girlfriends mother's dog as coyote bait once. It was a mini dachshund. He whined and barked non stop so we brought him out to the pasture with us and let him do his thing. At first he was gunshy then he started loving it.

Honest to God he'd pee on every dead yote.

Decoy dogs are a great tactic for hunting coyotes. Unfortunately it is now illegal in this state.

yeah I know.. this was in KY. I love WA but theres a lot of rules i don't get

kbyers · « **Reply #9 on:** July 28, 2011, 02:52:00 PM »

Quote from: BurleyDog on July 27, 2011, 10:04:08 PM

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yeah I know.. this was in KY. I love WA but theres a lot of rules i don't get

Thats cause the people that don't get it are the ones making the rules

h20hunter · « **Reply #10 on:** July 28, 2011, 02:53:32 PM »

If you have pics of the little dog peeing on a dead yote I've got a six pack for you.

D360 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 31, 2011, 12:14:36 PM »

Now I just have to get permission to use the goat lol

remington300mag · « **Reply #12 on:** July 31, 2011, 12:46:36 PM »

Chickens work well as a live decoy as well......or so I have been told! (just in case it is not legal)

D360 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 01, 2011, 04:06:53 PM »

Well I got the online version of the regs and did a search thru the whole document and the only times the word bait shows up is when it is talking about bear and game birds. so cougar is legal. Don't think I'm gonna get the goat but I started looking into chickens, What do you all think about using a duck? their about the same price and I'm just gonna end up eating it my self after the seaso, hopefully with a side of cougar.

Kain · « **Reply #14 on:** August 01, 2011, 05:56:13 PM »

I have a whole bunch of rabbits if you want to try one of those.

They sell rabbit harnesses at the pet store.

D360 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 01, 2011, 06:24:43 PM »

How much for the rabbits?

Kain · « **Reply #16 on:** August 01, 2011, 06:54:34 PM »

How many you want? If you just want one Ill give it to you. If you want more I usually charge $10.

D360 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 02, 2011, 05:09:24 PM »

Kain I just googled Vantucky.... Wow lol. back to the rabbit thing I kind of want something that will make a lot of noise to help attract the predators, and don't want to have to break a rabbits leg to get the noise lol

Kain · « **Reply #18 on:** August 02, 2011, 06:56:42 PM »

No dont want to be hurting rabbits when there are so many e-callers out there that will make the noise for you.

Alpinegus · « **Reply #19 on:** August 03, 2011, 10:27:37 AM »

Forest Gump would say to this idea:
Stupid is, as stupid does.

A few years back, PETA showed a cat caught in a claw trap. That year the WA voters took away the right to trap fur bearing critters, (even moles in your yard), as well as the right to bait blackbear.
What other rights do you want to loose?

bearpaw · « **Reply #20 on:** August 03, 2011, 10:49:07 AM »

It is legal to bait cougar, coyote, bobcat. You cannot bait bear, waterfowl, or game birds.

I think you should check into animal cruelty laws if you plan on using live bait. Also consider a shaded area, water, food, and that the animal is able to move about, etc.

BIGINNER · « **Reply #21 on:** August 03, 2011, 10:53:58 AM »

Quote from: bearpaw on August 03, 2011, 10:49:07 AM

It is legal to bait cougar, coyote, bobcat. You cannot bait bear, waterfowl, or game birds.

I think you should check into animal cruelty laws if you plan on using live bait. Also consider a shaded area, water, food, and that the animal is able to move about, etc.

but we want the animal to scream..

not be confortable.. lol

magnanimous_j · « **Reply #22 on:** August 03, 2011, 11:18:11 AM »

Quote from: D360 on July 27, 2011, 08:24:00 PM

would it be baiting if I tied one of our living goats to a tree somewhere and waited to see if a cougar (or any other predator) would show up? just letting my goat clear some brush while I sit in a stand with my bow lol

Oh God! Whether it's legal or not, whatever you do, don't let the tree huggers catch you doing it. We would never hear the end of it.

D360 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 03, 2011, 11:35:25 AM »

The bait animal would be completley protected and two of us in tree stands with plenty of fire power. I think I'm going to go with a chicken because I have heard they will make more noise and I plan on having fried chicken that night lol

BIGINNER · « **Reply #24 on:** August 03, 2011, 11:38:34 AM »

Quote from: magnanimous_j on August 03, 2011, 11:18:11 AM

Quote from: D360 on July 27, 2011, 08:24:00 PM
would it be baiting if I tied one of our living goats to a tree somewhere and waited to see if a cougar (or any other predator) would show up? just letting my goat clear some brush while I sit in a stand with my bow lol

Oh God! Whether it's legal or not, whatever you do, don't let the tree huggers catch you doing it. We would never hear the end of it.

the goat won't be bait,... it will be out in the wilderness enjoying nature,.. eating natural food,.. maybe even see its cousin (deer)

jackmaster · « **Reply #25 on:** August 03, 2011, 12:24:14 PM »

bring a guinnie hen or two, those damn things are the absolute noisest birds and all you got to do is hook a string to the bushes by the pen that you will have them in and just pull the string and they will cut loose, dont worry about trying to hear anything comin in ..cause you wont hear a damn thing

D360 · « **Reply #26 on:** August 03, 2011, 12:30:18 PM »

Yea I'm excited to see what kind of animals will show up, I have an archery tag and in an either sex unit so anything that shows up is fair game! I'll look into the guinnie hens, thanks!

75johndeere · « **Reply #27 on:** August 03, 2011, 02:22:31 PM »

Quote from: D360 on August 03, 2011, 12:30:18 PM

Yea I'm excited to see what kind of animals will show up, I have an archery tag and in an either sex unit so anything that shows up is fair game! I'll look into the guinnie hens, thanks!

unless you plan on letting the cougar eat the guinnie hen first i wouldnt recomend buying one dont forget you have to take it home

dscubame · « **Reply #28 on:** August 03, 2011, 02:27:23 PM »

Whatever you do get some video footage of this method and post it.

D360 · « **Reply #29 on:** August 03, 2011, 02:42:55 PM »

Quote from: 75johndeere on August 03, 2011, 02:22:31 PM

Quote from: D360 on August 03, 2011, 12:30:18 PM
Yea I'm excited to see what kind of animals will show up, I have an archery tag and in an either sex unit so anything that shows up is fair game! I'll look into the guinnie hens, thanks!

unless you plan on letting the cougar eat the guinnie hen first i wouldnt recomend buying one dont forget you have to take it home

Oh after I'm done using the chicken to lure in a cougar I'm gonna butcher the chicken, and I'll try to get some video but pictures for sure.

BENCHLEG · « **Reply #30 on:** August 08, 2011, 08:22:16 PM »

remember the tree huggers visit this site.

this kind of unsensored talk gets us in-trouble.

marty · « **Reply #31 on:** August 08, 2011, 08:40:45 PM »

jackmaster · « **Reply #32 on:** August 09, 2011, 06:47:49 AM »

well heres to the tree huggers

.. now why dont you take your tree hugn self and go hug a wolf or a cougar and see how that turns out for ya..... and leave animal management to the people that actually care, like hunters and fisherman, ya know the guys and gals that put a ton of time and money into the animals and other wildlife...

turnloose · « **Reply #33 on:** September 24, 2011, 11:29:31 PM »

Dave B · « **Reply #34 on:** September 28, 2011, 11:13:06 AM »

You should try two roosters. That would make the tree huggers happy and the preditors mouth water. Put them in separate cages next to each other. Its like cock fighting, but hippie friendly and guaranteed to bring in something.

D360 · « **Reply #35 on:** September 28, 2011, 12:03:27 PM »

I like it Dave B!!!

Dhoey07 · « **Reply #36 on:** September 28, 2011, 12:16:24 PM »

Using a live goat?! Any one else get reminded of Jurassic Park? lol

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