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Re: Tribe's position on wolves and sealions
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2011, 04:43:13 PM »
This question has already been answered by Coastal Native...  All the Federal protected stuff still aplies to them... they do have more manuvering room tho than we do...
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Re: Tribe's position on wolves and sealions
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2011, 01:43:02 PM »
To my understanding wolves are not under Federal protection? If that is the fact than they are only state protected and I am not trying to rub you all wrong but the state has little to no say on Tribal issues. Most Yakama's that see a wolf well be taking the shot. Federal laws apply and State not so much.

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Re: Tribe's position on wolves and sealions
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2011, 01:48:27 PM »
To my understanding wolves are not under Federal protection? If that is the fact than they are only state protected and I am not trying to rub you all wrong but the state has little to no say on Tribal issues. Most Yakama's that see a wolf well be taking the shot. Federal laws apply and State not so much.
endangered species are under federal jurisdiction which is why states have such a rough go of delisting...so yes indeed they are protected like bald eagles and any other federally protected species....

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Re: Tribe's position on wolves and sealions
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2011, 02:03:30 PM »
To my understanding wolves are not under Federal protection? If that is the fact than they are only state protected and I am not trying to rub you all wrong but the state has little to no say on Tribal issues. Most Yakama's that see a wolf well be taking the shot. Federal laws apply and State not so much.
endangered species are under federal jurisdiction which is why states have such a rough go of delisting...so yes indeed they are protected like bald eagles and any other federally protected species....

Shhhhh.......don't tell them that.  We need all the help we can get in ridding wolves in this state.  Seems like the tribes could help out.....
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Re: Tribe's position on wolves and sealions
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2011, 03:07:15 PM »
Wolves and Sea Lions are still under Fed Protection and in such cases they prosecute Federally not Tribally.  The gentleman that was caught poaching the Bald Eagles had an accomplice and he was given Federal Prison time in Northern California and I'm not sure as to the accomplice on how much time he got.  The family of the young man  drove him down to California to start serving his sentence and since he was not a flight risk and has cooperated with the Feds through the whole investigation I believe that was the only reason he was allowed to do such.

Bald Eagles are Fed Protected and we cannot kill them only possess them.  Again, we still have to follow Federal Guidelines and the Yakama Nation has tried exterminating the Sea Lions and the biggest groups against the Lethal removal has been the Tree Huggers, Conservation Groups and etc.  It's a battle still taking place in Federal Court and I would love to see the Sea Lions go away.

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Re: Tribe's position on wolves and sealions
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2011, 03:12:24 PM »
Plateau, has the tribe combined forces with WDFW and Oregon F&W to get something accomplished about removal of sealions? 
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Re: Tribe's position on wolves and sealions
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2011, 03:20:02 PM »
I believe they have and the ones that are holding it up in court are the Conservation Groups.  They continue to fight it stating the Sea Lions don't have an impact quite as large as the fishing industry and the Dams and that is what keeps holding this up in court.  The last time I inquired about this they were supposed to be conducting another study as to the environmental impact of the Sea Lions on salmon runs along the Columbia.

And last time I checked none of the non-lethal tactics to scare them away were working and relocation has proved to be useless because they eventually made their way back up the coastline back to the Columbia and the Dams.

Again, the Tribe has tried to deal with it themselves but due to Federal Protection they still have to seek permission and if the Tribe had its way they would've used lethal tactics long time ago.
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Re: Tribe's position on wolves and sealions
« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2011, 04:02:30 PM »
last i heard the sea lions were also targeting the stergeon, could this be a way in to help with the removal of the sea lions ? not strictly a salmon issue but a general fisheries issue ?

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Re: Tribe's position on wolves and sealions
« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2011, 04:28:45 PM »
Warning Warning   Lost wolf cross dog's (DOG'S)    I lost my wolf cross dogs in WA State. I have bread these dogs to be extremely aggressive when I was traveling the crest trail from OR north They got away so please kill on sight. Yes kill on site. I lost six breading pairs.

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Re: Tribe's position on wolves and sealions
« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2011, 04:35:21 PM »
WTF....YOU LOST SIX BREEDING PAIR..? SO you just took a hike with 6 pair of dogs and they got away .... Well you do not want to hear what I have to think about this !!!!!!   >:(Grrrrrrrrrrr. :bash: :bash: :yeah:

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Re: Tribe's position on wolves and sealions
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2011, 04:37:04 PM »
Warning Warning   Lost wolf cross dog's (DOG'S)    I lost my wolf cross dogs in WA State. I have bread these dogs to be extremely aggressive when I was traveling the crest trail from OR north They got away so please kill on sight. Yes kill on site. I lost six breading pairs.
dude whatever your smokin please send some my way  :yeah:

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Re: Tribe's position on wolves and sealions
« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2011, 04:49:30 PM »
I think he's pushing to hit the breeding pair quota.  :chuckle:

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Re: Tribe's position on wolves and sealions
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2011, 05:07:19 PM »
Warning Warning   Lost wolf cross dog's (DOG'S)    I lost my wolf cross dogs in WA State. I have bread these dogs to be extremely aggressive when I was traveling the crest trail from OR north They got away so please kill on sight. Yes kill on site. I lost six breading pairs.
dude whatever your smokin please send some my way  :yeah:

Something tells me you missed the subtle nuance of his post.

I for one would be happy to assist this gentleman in locating and eliminating his extremely aggressive breeding pairs of dogs that look EXACTLY like wolves.  Unfortunately there's that pesky prison time problem, and I have an issue with losing those hunting privileges that I so treasure.
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Re: Tribe's position on wolves and sealions
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2011, 05:16:14 PM »

Something tells me you missed the subtle nuance of his post.

 :yeah:

Its called "irony"

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Re: Tribe's position on wolves and sealions
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2011, 05:43:41 PM »

Something tells me you missed the subtle nuance of his post.

 :yeah:

Its called "irony"

Too bad too, that was actually pretty funny!
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