We Can't loose the ability to feed our wild life.

[Snapshot]

I am an avid archer,but I could careless for the last week of archery deer IMHO..I dont like that they have taken days away and for nothing. The week I want back and is a big deal is the late archery whitetail season we lost that was a prime date for us..now we are chasing the tail end of the rut and post rut. The early dates to me are not as critical as the bucks are very hard to hunt in late sept and alot of archers dont chase them by then..most serious archers put in the time that first week.

Then you have good cause to attend the meeting closest to you next week. Take along some friends.
 
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/seasonsetting/index.html
 
I know a lot of archers (far more serious than some!) who hunted that last week of September and notched their tags then with regularity. Archery hunting is supposed to be hard.

[Snapshot]

There are plenty of conservation groups out there who make it known right up front that they support hunting and fishing. Why on earth would we want to alienate those groups by painting them all with a single, broad brush stroke? As an outdoorsman whose way of life is under constant attack I know how it feels to be associated in the media with never-do-wells and how off-base such ignorance can be.

[boneaddict]

I have a conflict of interest on this issue.  I do not support baiting or neccessarily feeding the wildlife, though the latter can be done correctly, it often is not.  Hell, I think they got it backwards, baiting should be allowed for bear but NOT deer.      HOWEVER, I know how it is to lose hunting priviledges because we didn't stick up for each other.  As divided camps, we will lose one battle after another.  I'm not sure how much I want to fight for this one but.......

......trailcams will certainly become less popular. 

Kind of like that last week of September.....may not be important to you, but I bet it is to someone.  I usually kill my critters in early Spetember so would rather they close it in November, so I can photograph without being harassed by a bunch of camo clad warriors. LOL   

[pianoman9701]

I have a conflict of interest on this issue.  I do not support baiting or neccessarily feeding the wildlife, though the latter can be done correctly, it often is not.  Hell, I think they got it backwards, baiting should be allowed for bear but NOT deer.      HOWEVER, I know how it is to lose hunting priviledges because we didn't stick up for each other.  As divided camps, we will lose one battle after another.  I'm not sure how much I want to fight for this one but.......

......trailcams will certainly become less popular. 

Kind of like that last week of September.....may not be important to you, but I bet it is to someone.  I usually kill my critters in early Spetember so would rather they close it in November, so I can photograph without being harassed by a bunch of camo clad warriors. LOL

Agreed. I rarely have the opportunity to hunt the late season. If I had the choice, I would end baiting for deer and elk and bring it back for bears. But I will support anyone's right to engage in lawful hunting activities. These are small differences in preference and our perception of ethics. In the end, we should all be defending hunters who obey the letter of the law.

[Snapshot]

  Below are excerpts from a 2008 survey conducted in Washington. A large percentage of people use the outdoors and an even larger percentage approve of hunting. But only twelve percent disapprove of hunting and they mostly cited animal rights reasons as why. There are many, many more people who appreciate wild places (some of whom would call themselves environmentalists) than there are 'bunny-huggers'. I think hunters have more to gain by working with environmentalists than we do by working against them. We have a huge common interest and that is maintaining the habitat that wild animals need.
 

PARTICIPATION IN HUNTING AND OTHER OUTDOOR RECREATION

The most popular outdoor recreation activities of Washington residents in the past 2 years (of
the seven activities about which the survey asked) were hiking (57% did this), wildlife

viewing (49%), and camping (48%). A second tier or activities were boating (41%), fishing

(40%), and swimming in natural waters (38%).

GENERAL SUPPORT OF OR OPPOSITION TO HUNTING

The large majority of Washington residents (82%) approve of legal, regulated hunting, and

only 12% disapprove. Most approval is strong approval (51% strongly approve).

• Those who disapprove of hunting were asked why they disapprove. Most commonly

they give an animal rights answer and/or say that they are against killing animals. These

respondents who disapprove of hunting were then asked if there was anything that would

change their mind about disapproving of hunting. The large majority said that there is

nothing that would change their mind. Otherwise, a few would change their mind if they
knew that there were environmental reasons/wildlife had to be controlled. • Trend: Overall approval of hunting remained nearly the same from 2002 to 2008.
 
The full report is at:
http://www.conservationnw.org/library/otherpub/WA_Hunt_Public_Report.pdf/at_download/file

[NWWABOWHNTR]

The last week of sept is very important to many archers.  Why?  Ok, I drive 5 hours to hunt elk from 6-18 sept, I elk hunt in an area there is not many deer in.  Then in the past I have the last week of Sept to target the blacktail here that I watch all summer.  Now after elk season I have just a few days to try to tag out on that blacktail.  There are many bowhunters in the same situation and I have heard this from many hunters.  Once again, for no real reason this opportunity was taken away from us and it negatively impacts OUR ability to hunt deer after elk season. 

[PolarBear]

I have a conflict of interest on this issue.  I do not support baiting or neccessarily feeding the wildlife, though the latter can be done correctly, it often is not.  Hell, I think they got it backwards, baiting should be allowed for bear but NOT deer.      HOWEVER, I know how it is to lose hunting priviledges because we didn't stick up for each other.  As divided camps, we will lose one battle after another.  I'm not sure how much I want to fight for this one but.......

......trailcams will certainly become less popular. 

[Elkaholic daWg]

 So 12% swayed enough people to win the elections Banning hound hunting, bear baiting and trapping? Sketchy at best!



 Conservation Northwest eh....  From another topic
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,81383.0.html

    The one with the cute cuddly polar bear cub for an avatar. Looks like a wolf love fest over there between "washington wolves" and" "conservation nw"


I got into it with that moron on the WDFW Facebook page.  She eventually stopped posting as she ran out of BS to say.  Brainwashed morons...

[boneaddict]

12% is anti hunting, whereas a large majority are on the fence as don't hunt, but don't care.  EASILY swayed by bambi pics and the like, a single video of dogs ripping apart a bear cub.    We describe these folks as on the fence.  The ones that are easily convinced one way or the other. 

Take bear baiting for instance.   A very useful tool to sort out sows with cubs or boars etc.   There is nothing easy about carrying on a successful bait.  However, if you have ever come across a bad "bait" in the woods, its an aweful mess.   or if you try to persuade an non hunting populace about wanting to not shoot a sow with cubs, their first thought is to SHUT IT DOWN.

[Archeryoutfitters]

I have a conflict of interest on this issue.  I do not support baiting or neccessarily feeding the wildlife, though the latter can be done correctly, it often is not.  Hell, I think they got it backwards, baiting should be allowed for bear but NOT deer.      HOWEVER, I know how it is to lose hunting priviledges because we didn't stick up for each other.  As divided camps, we will lose one battle after another.  I'm not sure how much I want to fight for this one but.......

......trailcams will certainly become less popular. 

Kind of like that last week of September.....may not be important to you, but I bet it is to someone.  I usually kill my critters in early Spetember so would rather they close it in November, so I can photograph without being harassed by a bunch of camo clad warriors. LOL

I have a conflict of interest on this issue.

Just a different point of view, i feel it is unethical to put a 6.5x20x50 scope on a 300 ultra mag. and shoot a deer at 500 yards when they are just laying there unaware of any one in there world, even though i did it for years. lets take away scopes because it is to easy to harvest them mule deer, elk, whitetail.(they'll never miss them)
i don't think any of our privileges, we have should be put at risk  because we don't understand it, or practice it, we are all in this together (The outdoors) and to keep it for our kids and grand kids. From the falconry to the 300 ultra mag. I think their all great it gives us a well balance of choices in the out doors and a greater understanding of it.

Usely if we don't like some thing or don't agree with it, it is because we don't understand it, or haven't done it to appreciated what it takes to make it work. 

[MtnMuley]

Bait is for bears.

[Elkslayer]

Bait is for bears.

Unfortunately bait is not for bears anymore. I believe what Brian is saying is that it is time for all of us to join together and stand up for all user's rights, no matter if we use them or agree with them. The issue is not if you approve of baiting or not.
They have already taken our right to bait bears away because we all stood by and did nothing. Even a large majority of hunters that did not agree with bear baiting or the use of hounds helped to vote this out. Currently the right to bait or feed deer and elk whatever one you choose to call it, is being targeted. They will not stop at anything. What will they go after next? To some baiting is seen as an unfair advantage to the animals, so is using a large magnified scope on your rifle, even predator hunters are targeted with the use of electronic calls or decoys the list can go on and on.
Enough is enough, and the bickering and bitching about what is ethical or is not ethical needs to stop. As long as it is legal then support it. Doesn't mean you have to go out and do it. If the way you currently hunt is not an issue you still need to stand up for others, if you dont that just puts them that much closer to the way you hunt! 

[h20hunter]

Sorry Elkslayer, I must disagree. You see, my way is the RIGHT and ONLY way to hunt.

Of course I kid but my point is that the statement kind of sums up why we don't support others that hunt differnetly (legally different).

I think you make a good point, well said.

[Archeryoutfitters]

 

Sorry Elkslayer, I must disagree. You see, my way is the RIGHT and ONLY way to hunt.

Of course I kid but my point is that the statement kind of sums up why we don't support others that hunt differnetly (legally different).

I think you make a good point, well said. We are or should be in this together. 

[Elkaholic daWg]

12% is anti hunting, whereas a large majority are on the fence as don't hunt, but don't care.  EASILY swayed by bambi pics and the like, a single video of dogs ripping apart a bear cub.    We describe these folks as on the fence.  The ones that are easily convinced one way or the other. 

Take bear baiting for instance.   A very useful tool to sort out sows with cubs or boars etc.   There is nothing easy about carrying on a successful bait.  However, if you have ever come across a bad "bait" in the woods, its an aweful mess.   or if you try to persuade an non hunting populace about wanting to not shoot a sow with cubs, their first thought is to SHUT IT DOWN.

 Very true,and while we fight amongst ourselves, the road hunters, the ATV bunch, 4x4 drivers and snowmobilers  We all get screwed by this bunch.
where have I read this before?

Americans are systematically advocating, legislating, and voting away each others rights. Support all user groups and quit losing opportunity.


 Here is a little something from conservation northwest regarding their insistance there must be at least 15 breeding pairs of wolves in Washington.


Conservation Northwest
The commission *itself* did not say that only WA residents could comment. If they had stipulated that, the online action center would reflect that. Wildlife decisions affect many people--visiting hunters, wildlife enthusiasts who would trav...el to see wolves, people in bordering states, etc. If the commission is willing to accept public comment from everyone, then we will encourage people who have an interest to comment. People who disagree in other states may also comment!