How DNR will use Discover Pass $

[bigtex]

The legislature is already looking at the single vehicle issue. People need to remember that it is not the agency that makes the rules, it is the legislature. The legislature made numerous changes to the law before it was passed.

Yes Bigtex, but the DFW is consulted by the legislature when considering changes to these programs. Letting the DFW know our concerns is not fruitless at all.

Yes and no. State agencies can provide their input, but there have been many times where the legislature takes that input and goes in a completely different way. For example a couple years ago WDFW wanted a ban on feeding wildlife. By the time the bill made it through committee WDFW no longer supported the bill.

However the legislature is already looking at changes to the pass including using it on more then one vehicle and some type of a window decal opposed to the hanger.

[bigtex]

I think it was up to the DNR where it would be required. That's where the "designated" word comes in. The pass is required in any area that the DNR designates as a recreational area. A lot of the areas they have designated as such, are nothing more than forested blocks of land with logging roads runnning through them. There are no hiking trails, parking lots, camping areas, nothing.

It is up to the DNR to decide where it is required, no doubt about that. But people have been saying that DNR made it more then just a parking pass, that is false, in the law it says to operate on DNR lands. Had the legislature wanted it to be a parking pass they should have made it a requirement to park on DNR lands, not to operate on those lands.

[Wazukie]

Simple answer to all this, Repeal the law.  We need someone like Iman to set it up, get the signatures and put it to a vote of the people.  Legislature should never enact laws, nor should they have the power to do so, with out a vote of the people.  Plane and simple. I will not buy one.

[fireweed]

Looking at the history of the language in the bill tells a story of how this process works (or how to work the process to get what you want!)

Original Proposed Bill: "Recreation site or lands" means those areas of state-owned or
 managed lands designated by an agency where the discover pass or day-
 use permit is required.  (This is what agencies originally Wanted--Anywhere They Chose to require a pass)

1st substitute Bill: "Recreation lands" means a state park or any area managed by an agency for outdoor recreation or fish and wildlife
 conservation including water access areas, boat ramps, wildlife areas,parking areas, roads, trailheads, and trails under ownership,management, lease, or control of the agency, or "public lands" as defined in RCW 79.02.010. (The definition appears to limit the pass to areas  lands managed for outdoor recreation, but then tosses in public lands at the end)

2nd substitute bill and Passed by Legislature: "Recreation site or lands" means a state park or fish and wildlife conservation sites including water access areas, boat ramps,wildlife areas, parking areas, roads, and trailheads, or department of natural resources developed or designated recreation areas, sites, trailheads, and parking areas
[i
](the final Bill APPEARS to finally tighten up definition to sites where recreation improvements have been made ie. developed sites and designated sites.   I was watching this bill closely and at the time it passed, the DNR website had a list of "designated recreation sites" that only included campgrounds/trailheads etc, so I figured we were ok for hunting on timberland.  EXCEPT that murky and undefined "designated" word allowed the DNR to simply draw lines on  maps and then say they were now "designated recreation areas" and required the pass.    Seems like the DNR got what they wanted all along despite the legislators efforts to limit the pass to developed sites. [/i] 

[pianoman9701]

Here's the reply from WDFW regarding a second plate on the Discover Pass:

"nfortunately, the Discover Pass is non-transferrable and only valid for
one vehicle. The Discover Pass legislation specifically states the pass
applies to one vehicle. A change to this would have to be done through
the Discover Pass committee and Legislation.

The Vehicle Access Pass that you receive with your Fishing (or Hunting)
License is a "complimentary" Pass that comes with your license, that you
do not purchase, therefore, it only allows you to access Department of
Fish & Wildlife Lands and/or water access sites. The Discover Pass
allows access to any state recreation lands and water access sites
managed by Washington State Parks (State Parks), Washington Department
of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) or Washington State Department of Natural
Resources (DNR). These lands include state parks, water access points,
heritage sites, wildlife and natural areas, trails and trailheads.

For more information please go to the Discover Pass Frequently Asked
Questions at: http://discoverpass.wa.gov/faq/ OR to the Discover Pass
Home Page a: http://discoverpass.wa.gov/

If you feel your questions regarding the Discover Pass was not answered
adequately, you may also contact us directly by phone at: toll-free
(866) 320-9933.

Thank you,

Customer Service Specialist 2
WDFW Licensing
Olympia, WA 98501
(360) 902-2464"