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Ethics Question
« on: November 01, 2011, 09:52:53 AM »
I have been planning for a late season archery elk hunt and have received permission to hunt on private land.  However, the private land is not very large and is bordered by other private properties.  I have seen several legal elk in the area and I am curious what others think about the situation. 
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Re: Ethics Question
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2011, 09:56:20 AM »
And the question is?

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Re: Ethics Question
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2011, 09:59:24 AM »
Buy a bunch of hay and a week before the season start putting the hay out every morning.  They will start coming in like clockwork.  Sit up in an elevated stand or a groundblind down wind from them and smoke a cow. 
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Re: Ethics Question
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2011, 10:00:23 AM »
Shoot them legally and your ethics are intact. If they go onto someone else's land after you shoot them, you can always contact the land owner to retrieve it. You might even think about contacting the abutting landowners ahead of time and may even get a larger area to hunt.
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Re: Ethics Question
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2011, 10:04:19 AM »
Shoot them legally and your ethics are intact. If they go onto someone else's land after you shoot them, you can always contact the land owner to retrieve it. You might even think about contacting the abutting landowners ahead of time and may even get a larger area to hunt.

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Re: Ethics Question
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2011, 10:05:22 AM »
If you are worried about a hit elk running onto someone else's property, you could approach the neighbors beforehand.  Let them know who you are, where you will be hunting, educate them that even a perfectly hit animal that dies within 30 seconds may run quite a ways.  You could find out if they want to be informed that one ran onto their property before you go retrieve it or that they don't care since you've already contacted them.  You might also let them know that if they do not want the gutpile left there that you would be willing to remove it.  Of course, you can also let them know that a lot of birds and animals benefit from scavenging the gutpile.

This proactive approach may gain you more access as well, unless the neighbors all hate the guy whose property you are on....

I would also not ask for permission to recover an animal.  Be polite but act like it is expected to be able to recover the animal. 

Good luck.

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Re: Ethics Question
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2011, 10:08:34 AM »
I would also not ask for permission to recover an animal.  Be polite but act like it is expected to be able to recover the animal. 

You don't think you should ask to enter someones private property?  It's expected?  A little presumptous isn't that?

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Re: Ethics Question
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2011, 10:09:11 AM »
Good suggestions guys thanks.
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Re: Ethics Question
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2011, 10:21:15 AM »
I would also not ask for permission to recover an animal.  Be polite but act like it is expected to be able to recover the animal. 

You don't think you should ask to enter someones private property?  It's expected?  A little presumptous isn't that?

Did you read what I posted??   Probably not, you couldn't even figure out what he was asking.

Of course you should get permission to access their property.  But, I would not walk up and say something like "hey, I shot an elk that ran onto your property, the state says you don't have to let me get it but can I please, oh please go get it?"

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Re: Ethics Question
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2011, 10:27:41 AM »

I would also not ask for permission to recover an animal.  Be polite but act like it is expected to be able to recover the animal
Of course you should get permission to access their property.

Obvious  :bash:  How could anyone not understand what you were so eloquently stating

 


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