Ruger M77 Triggers

[TommyH]

Does any one know what the best method to fix my trigger problem? My RugerM77 300wsm  trigger  pull is crazy hard to pull!! Way to much pressure needed, im not sure if they are all like that or what but i just keep pulling and waiting for it to go off, I am not nearly as accurate with this gun as the other winchester but im sure it is the trigger pull and myself not the rifle, I like the gun but need help, what is the best method to lighten up my trigger pull?

[Jason]

Try this shortcut http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,60089.0.html

Or you can buy a Timney Trigger for $117 which is adjustable.

[runamuk]

Rifle basix  also makes a good trigger for ruger i have one in my hawkeye it solved the heavy trigger pull

[huntnphool]

With the Timney, it will make a world of difference.

[6x6in6]

3 out of 4 of my M77's have/had Timney's.
Do it!!!

[TommyH]

Rifle basix  also makes a good trigger for ruger i have one in my hawkeye it solved the heavy trigger pull

do you know what those run?$$

[doyourtime89]

Yes Timney trigger for sure.  I have the same rifle and the trigger pull was really bad.  I had a Timney trigger put in this summer and it is amazing.  I love you.  It made a big difference.  On their website they say it is really easy to put in but I didn't want to take any chances so I had a gun smith put mine in.  On the website it says for your rifle there might have to be a little file work for the saftey.  So I didn't want to mess with anything.  Like $40 buck to have the gun smith put it in.  What area are you in?  Then guy I used is in Covington.  I have even had it back to tighten up the pull a little bit, no charge for that.  I had it set at 2 1/2 at first, it was to light for me.  Now its at 3 1/2....VERY NICE!!

[TommyH]

Yes Timney trigger for sure.  I have the same rifle and the trigger pull was really bad.  I had a Timney trigger put in this summer and it is amazing.  I love you.  It made a big difference.  On their website they say it is really easy to put in but I didn't want to take any chances so I had a gun smith put mine in.  On the website it says for your rifle there might have to be a little file work for the saftey.  So I didn't want to mess with anything.  Like $40 buck to have the gun smith put it in.  What area are you in?  Then guy I used is in Covington.  I have even had it back to tighten up the pull a little bit, no charge for that.  I had it set at 2 1/2 at first, it was to light for me.  Now its at 3 1/2....VERY NICE!!

i love you still crackin up! glad to hear you love it i guess i will check into that, covington? im in stevens county

[Heredoggydoggy]

I don't know if the Rugers have changed since my 1st generation .270 Model 77 but it had a terrible trigger pull too.  As I recall, the trigger adjustments were secured by a set of tiny locknuts--so small that I had to make a set of wrenches to make adjustments.  Once adjusted, it had a good pull, and accuracy (mine) improved.  Sold the gun years ago to put the money into materials for my house.

[Jason]

I don't know if the Rugers have changed since my 1st generation .270 Model 77 but it had a terrible trigger pull too.  As I recall, the trigger adjustments were secured by a set of tiny locknuts--so small that I had to make a set of wrenches to make adjustments.  Once adjusted, it had a good pull, and accuracy (mine) improved.  Sold the gun years ago to put the money into materials for my house.

No adjusting screws on the newer models

[JackOfAllTrades]

Ruger 77, or Ruger 77 MKII?

Be specific.  The older 77 was available with the varminters trigger.  (I have a 77 that was originally a 300wm that has the varminter trigger installed.  Easily as nice as a Timney. (and yes, I have Timney in other rifles)).

So, pull your barreled action out of the stock and see if there are any adjustments on the trigger before you do anything. (knowing if it is an early or late model 77 would help here...)..  That said,  Much to be learned here:

http://www.varminthunters.com/tech/ruger77trigger.html

http://www.varminthunters.com/tech/rugervt.html

If you have the MKII... Call Trapper Gun  at 586-776-7581.  I have installed thier assortment of trigger springs and with a tad bit of polish on the sear have brought a factory trigger down to a sweet crisp trigger of less than 3pounds.

-Steve

[Doug6XC]

+1 for the springs and polish.

 Have done a bunch of Timneys in Rugers, pretty easy to install. Just go slow when fitting the safety engagement tab.

[TommyH]

Ruger 77, or Ruger 77 MKII?

Be specific.  The older 77 was available with the varminters trigger.  (I have a 77 that was originally a 300wm that has the varminter trigger installed.  Easily as nice as a Timney. (and yes, I have Timney in other rifles)).

So, pull your barreled action out of the stock and see if there are any adjustments on the trigger before you do anything. (knowing if it is an early or late model 77 would help here...)..  That said,  Much to be learned here:
mine is the MKII
http://www.varminthunters.com/tech/ruger77trigger.html

http://www.varminthunters.com/tech/rugervt.html

If you have the MKII... Call Trapper Gun  at 586-776-7581.  I have installed thier assortment of trigger springs and with a tad bit of polish on the sear have brought a factory trigger down to a sweet crisp trigger of less than 3pounds.

-Steve

[TommyH]

Ruger 77, or Ruger 77 MKII?

Be specific.  The older 77 was available with the varminters trigger.  (I have a 77 that was originally a 300wm that has the varminter trigger installed.  Easily as nice as a Timney. (and yes, I have Timney in other rifles)).

So, pull your barreled action out of the stock and see if there are any adjustments on the trigger before you do anything. (knowing if it is an early or late model 77 would help here...)..  That said,  Much to be learned here:

http://www.varminthunters.com/tech/ruger77trigger.html

http://www.varminthunters.com/tech/rugervt.html

If you have the MKII... Call Trapper Gun  at 586-776-7581.  I have installed thier assortment of trigger springs and with a tad bit of polish on the sear have brought a factory trigger down to a sweet crisp trigger of less than 3pounds.

-Steve

Mine is the MKII

[Miles]

Ruger trigger = *censored*


Buy a gun from a manufacturer that actually puts some effort into making a decent trigger.  As long as people keep buying their crap, they'll keep making it.

[addicted]

At least you can tweak a savage and a remington. lol.

Aftermarket triggers are the way to go if your looking for something real nice.

see siggy

[Heredoggydoggy]

Ruger trigger = *censored*


Buy a gun from a manufacturer that actually puts some effort into making a decent trigger.  As long as people keep buying their crap, they'll keep making it.

   Especially at the price they want for guns these days.  People turn their noses up at Savage rifles, but they shoot great right out of the box.  Good triggers, and barrels as accurate as you can ask for!

[high country]

A competent smith can have a ruger or winchester trigger breaking as clean as anyone should hope for on a hunting rifle. It is a good simple design that will always work when cold or dirty....can't say that about a rem.

[quadrafire]

Funny how a guy asking for advice on solving a trigger problem turns into yet another bashing session come on folks. Geez

I have a tang safety '06 and put a Timney in it this fall. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but it took a fair amount of stock work to get it to fit. I don't think that is the case for the MKII but I may be wrong.

[runamuk]

Rifle basix  also makes a good trigger for ruger i have one in my hawkeye it solved the heavy trigger pull

do you know what those run?$$

Not positive someone bought it for me was under a hundred I believe, I did help put it in and it was really quite simple.

[kingmountain]

rifle basix, used these in all my ruger M77'sRU-MK II
RU-MK II
   
Replacement trigger for current bolt action centerfire rifles.  Aftermarket trigger of choice for Ruger's.  Kit fits new "Hawkeye" Models with LC6 Trigger. * Right or Left Hand Application * as well as the NEW Ruger SCOUT!  Comes complete with instructions, hardware pack, and wrench for easy user installation.  Operational Range: 14oz-2.5lbs
   
$94.95

[KillBilly]

I have purchased and installed many Rifle-Basix triggers for myself and others. They are easy to install and adjust. The pricing is excellent and their customer service is friendly and good.

[jamesjett]

I had the same problem with a Hawkeye .22-250 I bought last month.  It comes with the LC6 trigger.  I replaced
the spring on the trigger.  It cut the pull by half I would say...I have not put a trigger pull gauge on it to
verify but it made a huge difference.  Try this link  http://erniethegunsmith.com/  He sells his springs on
ebay also.  It was $10.80 shipped to my home.  It took about 10-15 mins to change.  He advertises that
changing the spring will cut the pull by 1.5 - 2 lbs, but it feels like it was more than that.  No creep, the
trigger feels the same just a lot lighter, improved my accuracy quite a bit too.

[Stickerbush]

I have not done a whole lot of shooting with my M77 Hawkeye I got this summer so I didnt notice if it was any hard to pull. Seemed to shoot fine to me but maybe I'll start to notice it more and want a more sensative trigger put on

[TommyH]

thanks all for the info! does anyone know of a place to have trigger weight measured around spokne? i love my trigger in the winchester, im not sure if it is factory/stock since i got it slightly used But if i can get the ruger to pull like the winchester that would be awesome! i always no when it is going to fire and was quite comfortable with the light trigger pull on it. Any one know what factory # pull the winchester M-70 shadow(?) has on them?  thats what i would be aiming for, i guess i need to get it measured cause it feels so light that im thinking someone had done some work to it but not 100% sure. 

[Jason]

thanks all for the info! does anyone know of a place to have trigger weight measured around spokne? i love my trigger in the winchester, im not sure if it is factory/stock since i got it slightly used But if i can get the ruger to pull like the winchester that would be awesome! i always no when it is going to fire and was quite comfortable with the light trigger pull on it. Any one know what factory # pull the winchester M-70 shadow(?) has on them?  thats what i would be aiming for, i guess i need to get it measured cause it feels so light that im thinking someone had done some work to it but not 100% sure.

Go to wholesale sports and buy a trigger scale, there not to much money for the spring scales.

[high country]

Weight is not near the importance of a clean break. You can have a creepy 2lb or a glass smooth 4lb.....which would you want.

[JackOfAllTrades]

 

Weight is not near the importance of a clean break. You can have a creepy 2lb or a glass smooth 4lb.....which would you want.

I'll agree!..  A trigger that breaks like broken glass is much better than a rough light trigger. There is a point where 'heavy' is too heavy though. That said, people not used to shooting light triggers should not set/get one on a hunting rifle.  I have a 22 that breaks at 11oz, my competition pistols break 1 1/2 pounds and 3 1/2 pounds. So, my hunting rifles are right around there, but I'm used to that. I don't recommend that for casual shooter/hunters. My carry guns are more than 3 pounds and 'touched up'. Most people think they are very light. Crisp with no take-up/pre-travel/over-travel is key. -no matter what weight the pull is. 

-Steve

[gadwall]

Ruger trigger = *censored*


Buy a gun from a manufacturer that actually puts some effort into making a decent trigger.  As long as people keep buying their crap, they'll keep making it.

I have 2 of them and don't understand why they make a great rifle with a junk trigger.

[high country]

It's not a junk trigger at all. Many praise the remington trigger, but in reality, it is the most prone to freezing and debris malfunction. It is more complicated to perfect. Ruger, winchester, wby and a host of others use designs that are open and simple to work on and offer next to no chance for malfunctions. A remington can be adjusted easier, but that sure does not make them better. I build mainly based on the rem action, but the trigger is the one thing I wish could be made more cold weather friendly.

[Jason]

Weight is not near the importance of a clean break. You can have a creepy 2lb or a glass smooth 4lb.....which would you want.

well said, My second go around with this trigger found me buying a used trigger off of Gunbroker, Instead of removing any material from it I just polished the trigger and used my original sear that I had already modified to the specs
I had, Now it's a crisp glass smooth 47oz pull and without the creep that the stock setup has.

[high country]

I always start with polishing and quadruple checking the swat engagement angle. Often this is enough to make a "pos" into a favorite. It is easy to take more, a lot more work to put it back.