90 yard bow kill on a cow

[Dipsnort]

All the hot air is easily deflated when the math is applied.  Bravo Dip!!!

In the interest of accuracy a I logged in to the site I spoke of and found the messages he sent me.  The premise began as he defended one of many claims of an incredibly long shot by saying (in part) that his bow makes absolutely zero noise from 10' away so he has never had an issue with (among other things) the animals he shoots jumping the string and causing a poor hit.  Did you read that?  Zero noise.  None, nada, zilch!  Here's a sample to give you an idea of what I'm talking about.

The 10ft part was a little of a exageration.. the number of deer however, no, I have my deer tag so thats 13, plus my dad and grandpa both disabled vets with the hunter companion card... . so thats 26 so 39 so far, and to be honest ive never added this up... but the 100 guess is a good one, and we shall see... also I have got a 2nd deer tag here so thats 3 more.. so 42 now.. then we have oregon, 3 years over there so 45... idaho was 3 years with 2 tags so 51..... OH was 2 years at 6 a year so 63... and CA is 3 a year for 4 years now so thats 12 more egualing.... 75... so your right in those 4 states im 25 off, but I have hunted other states as well... and killed a few in them as well.. my main point was my bow is insanly quiet and I have shot way more LEGAL deer with a bow then most people my age... so I think I have some room to talk on my effective range on game... I also dont horn hunt so yes I have filled my tag and all I have had every year.... your a hunter and a good one from what I can tell so im sure you can see how finding a fat doe or small buck isnt that hard in any of those areas.... then I also have tons of pigs, 1 elk, 5 turkey.. etc as well with the good ol hoyt....

I also have had depredation tags here in wa and california as well.. i just woke up and read your reply.. so id guess add another 20 deer over the years.. so ya we are at 95 give or take.. its good to know people like my buddy with 9000 acres in cali..... its cool you called me out so to speak.. hope this clears that up for you

So anyway, if you are one of these people who tell really tall tales that get taller by the minute I am putting you on notice that most normal people can see through you.  Stop doing it.  It makes you look like an idiot and your credibility goes down to zero!

[PA BEN]

Oh man, I just can't help myself.  Even though I'm late in this discussion, I need to respond.

Just because someone says on the internet they made a 90 yard bow kill shot does not mean it is true.  It's all about credibility of the person making the claim.  Let me tell you about the credibility of this particular "90 yard" shooter.

I used to post on a different forum where I would read his posts bragging about all sorts of incredible feats of marksmanship (among other things).  I couldn't help but chuckle at the wayward topics as folks challenged his claims over and over again for months and he defended them endlessly as the tales grew even taller.  Finally I responded to a claim that he has killed "well in excess of 100 deer".  Knowing that he was a pretty young guy I questioned him about the math.  He didn't want to talk numbers in the open forum so he went to personal messaging and told me that he had bow killed a deer every year in each of 3 different states (Washington, Oregon, and (if I'm not mistaken) Missouri) for 3 different people (2 of them being disabled hunters who he is related to) since he was (if I remember correctly) 14 years old.  And then he did the math on what he had just told me and it added up to a number that was less than 100 so he conceded that it was not actually "well in excess of 100".

That's when I stopped responding to his messages and just smiled and walked away.  Think about it.  Based on his claims he has filled all 9 archery tags per year since he was 14.  He (and 2 relatives) have the time and are all willing and able to pay for 2 out of state tags (and travel) each year so he can kill all of those deer.  And the list of improbabilities grows.

I'll say this about the "90 yard" shooter.  By all accounts he seems to be a nice guy.  But his lies and exaggerations in an attempt to make people look up to him and like him are so numerous that he has zero credibility.

Listen, hunters and fishermen exaggerate.  It's a fact of life.  Some of us are more extreme with those exaggerations than others.  It is good that we debate the ethics of 90 yard bow shots but let's just try to remember that not everything we hear on the internet is true.

I've killed 31 deer in 30 years of bow hunting Washington. I drew a second doe tag one year. I've killed alot more but I started hunting when I was 14 back in '75 and started bow hunting in '86. BTW, I've killed one deer at 60 yds and two elk at 60 yds. w/the bow.