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Offline Biggerhammer

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Re: Found 2 hind quarters on 507 Ft.Lewis
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2011, 03:15:31 PM »
Let there be no confusion! I was 100% talking about illegal poaching by the Local tribe on Ft. Lewis. Although, i will admit ive never seen them shoot and kill an animal. I will admit to being in TA 20, hunting legally with a bow, and having gone through all the proper steps with the NAC on Ft. Lewis and having not one but two Native American men approach me with rifles. This happened in Dec of 09. They were wearing full camo with scoped rifles. Now call it what you want. I call it illegal poaching by two Native Americans! Yes. I reported the incodent.  :bash: :bash: :bash:
Good job for reporting the incident, poaching, tresspassing, etc.
but 2 offenders is still 2 offenders, no matter what race.
The main reason "Tribe bashing" occurs imo, is that they don't hide what they are doing, because there is little reason to.
The average poacher is a little more secretive, full camo, and rifles, probably would not see them.  :twocents:
I do not support "sovereignty" within US borders, but do understand that it is a minority who get all the attention, and cannot blame them all.

Well then something is way off in this country, because last time I crunched the numbers.

If you are:

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Work
Pay taxes
Never been to prison
Know who your father is

Then there is a fairly damn good chance, you are one of the minorities if you live within the US OF A.

I sure don't feel I'm getting any extra " Attention". :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: Found 2 hind quarters on 507 Ft.Lewis
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2011, 03:40:10 PM »
 :yeah:  ain't that the truth!!
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Re: Found 2 hind quarters on 507 Ft.Lewis
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2011, 05:14:09 PM »
I meant that the few that are poaching, or engaged in unscrupulous behavior, are the ones that get attention, not the ones that follow the rules.
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Re: Found 2 hind quarters on 507 Ft.Lewis
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2011, 05:21:21 PM »
I think the mods should make a "I point fingers" section so I can avoid it all together!   :chuckle:

Don't get me wrong I don't condone any illegal,unethical,ignorant actions but to have a simple thread turn into a 25 page bashing thread that gets nothing resovled! Except making the mods work on monitoring everything to see who gets the boot first! I think they would rather enjoy the site too!  :sry:  :twocents:

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Re: Found 2 hind quarters on 507 Ft.Lewis
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2011, 05:52:36 PM »
Last year durring MF season I was hunting with low97ram and we found 2 elk quarters stacked up on teh side of an old logging road in TA20. I woul dbet anything it was poachers. That area gets hit hard my poachers and this was off the beaten path, an old road that is not traveled very often any more. Most people dumping game scraps just pull over and dump them, not go out of there way to get rid of them.

And we found some serious rubs not far from where we found the quarters.
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Re: Found 2 hind quarters on 507 Ft.Lewis
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2011, 08:06:17 PM »
Let there be no confusion! I was 100% talking about illegal poaching by the Local tribe on Ft. Lewis. Although, i will admit ive never seen them shoot and kill an animal. I will admit to being in TA 20, hunting legally with a bow, and having gone through all the proper steps with the NAC on Ft. Lewis and having not one but two Native American men approach me with rifles. This happened in Dec of 09. They were wearing full camo with scoped rifles. Now call it what you want. I call it illegal poaching by two Native Americans! Yes. I reported the incodent.  :bash: :bash: :bash:
Good job for reporting the incident, poaching, tresspassing, etc.
but 2 offenders is still 2 offenders, no matter what race.
The main reason "Tribe bashing" occurs imo, is that they don't hide what they are doing, because there is little reason to.
The average poacher is a little more secretive, full camo, and rifles, probably would not see them.  :twocents:
I do not support "sovereignty" within US borders, but do understand that it is a minority who get all the attention, and cannot blame them all.

Well then something is way off in this country, because last time I crunched the numbers.

If you are:

White
Work
Pay taxes
Never been to prison
Know who your father is

Then there is a fairly damn good chance, you are one of the minorities if you live within the US OF A.

I sure don't feel I'm getting any extra " Attention". :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

 :yeah:

Yep, and I don't want any attention :twocents:

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Re: Found 2 hind quarters on 507 Ft.Lewis
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2011, 08:38:31 PM »
IF YOU READ MY POST...........The MILITARY RESERVATION!!! JBLM -- Joint Base Lewis McChord

It was NOT hit by a car or truck, it was not shot!!

IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE ROAD!! They have rope either wrapped around them or tied through them the was once hanging from a tree. They were stacked neatly there and the top one has been ate off of from coyotes and birds. GO LOOK FOR YOURSELF It's the first Road to your right past the tank crossing or 1st road to your left just past Southworth Elemantary School. Turn on the road and make a right and its on your right. There have never been any elk out here before on that road. I've lived out here for 28 years and have never seen one there.


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Re: Found 2 hind quarters on 507 Ft.Lewis
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2011, 08:42:07 PM »
Very possible it was a legal kill that wasn't taken care of properly. If someone took it home, hung it up and decided to finish skinning and cleaning the next morning then the meat may have gone bad so they took it out and dumped it. I know where this road is and it is used as a dump site quite often. I have also heard of many white folks out that way that poach on the military rez. There is one person that lives on Fir Tree road that talks about it all the time, but nogbody can catch him in the act. Whites are just as much outlaws as tribal folks are.  :twocents:

At least one person knows exactly were I'm talking about....

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Re: Found 2 hind quarters on 510 Ft.Lewis
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2011, 06:34:56 AM »
Im gonna be in TA 20 today. I will take a look. I know exactly where you are talking about.

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Re: Found 2 hind quarters on 510 Ft.Lewis
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2011, 07:52:26 AM »
Im gonna be in TA 20 today. I will take a look. I know exactly where you are talking about.

Ya as soon as your turn off Hwy 510 as your going towards the Tank Crossing from Yelm.  Make a left on to TA 20 and then make an immidate right and you will see them on the right just on the side of the road. Might want to use a mask they are pretty smelly!!

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Re: Found 2 hind quarters on 507 Ft.Lewis
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2011, 08:18:00 AM »
IF YOU READ MY POST...........The MILITARY RESERVATION!!! JBLM -- Joint Base Lewis McChord

It was NOT hit by a car or truck, it was not shot!!

IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE ROAD!! They have rope either wrapped around them or tied through them the was once hanging from a tree. They were stacked neatly there and the top one has been ate off of from coyotes and birds. GO LOOK FOR YOURSELF It's the first Road to your right past the tank crossing or 1st road to your left just past Southworth Elemantary School. Turn on the road and make a right and its on your right. There have never been any elk out here before on that road. I've lived out here for 28 years and have never seen one there.

I too have lived out there for a long time and went to high school in yelm. class of 2000. The farm I work at is on the rainier side of town that butts up to the fort and timber company properties that go behind the high school and over that way. The elk run around there. That small herd gets pushed from farm to farm to fort property and back around again. I know of two elk legally killed out of that "area" this year. If its just hind quarters laying there you don't know how it died so to scream that it was poached makes you sound a little wacko.... Or you know more than your telling
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Re: Found 2 hind quarters on 510 Ft.Lewis
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2011, 08:42:21 AM »
There are so many possible causes/reasons for this, why would you start bashing Indians without more information? Doing so shows incredible ignorance and instantly labels you as a bigoted redneck.

There could be a dead hunter who died packing the rest out. It could be poachers, and there are plenty of stupid white poachers out there. Lots of the "good ole boys" have little respect for our game or the laws. It could be one of the other reasons already stated.

Before you start bashing Indians or any other group, make sure you know what you're talking about.
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Re: Found 2 hind quarters on 510 Ft.Lewis
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2011, 09:01:39 AM »
I hope your NOT talking about me bashing any Native Americans?? BECAUSE I'M NOT!! And I'm class of 2002 from Yelm as well. I know there are alot of elk out on the RAINIER side.... but not  between Yelm/Nisqually!!

1/4 mile from Southworth school on the left!! And I'm not saying anyone did anything. I'm saying I found 2 hind quarters. I'm pretty sure to what happened is someone was hanging them in there camp brought them home hung them in there garage to cut up and let them hang to long and they started spoiling. That's my best guess.

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Re: Found 2 hind quarters on 510 Ft.Lewis
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2011, 09:30:43 AM »
Yelm, he was pointing that comment at hammer most likely. Hammer gets a lot of flack for the way he presents himself around here. I wouldn't scream poacher to wdfw on this but reporting it is still a good idea.
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Re: Found 2 hind quarters on 510 Ft.Lewis
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2011, 09:31:34 AM »
Nope. You said nothing about the Indians.
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