Rifle question

[brokenvet]

30.06 will recoil less.  However the type of firearm, light or heavy, you have will in crease or decrease recoil.

Got a 7mm Mag pass down to me.  It's been 25 years since I last shot it, I just do not see the need for magnum caliber to hunt the NW unless your going or the great bears year after year.  Well I am bias because I am a non magnum fan. 

Might be best to take her out to shoot a 7mm Mag first and see if she like it.

[scottfrick]

THanks everyone for the great information!!! I appreciate everyones opinions!!!

[high country]

I once had a gunsmith tell me that the order in which the barrel was cut makes a big difference also. You can have two of the same rifles next to each other and one will kick hard the other not so bad. He said they cut the barrels with the same tool XX amounts of times. If you are the first barrel with the tool you are a great fit with less recoil. If you are the last cut the tool has worn and you are going to have more kick. Not sure how true this is, but sounded good to me.

This topic came up when I was looking at a 270 that had come back to his shop 3 times due to the kick it had. No one wanted to shoot it.

Forget what he told you. It may apply slightly to velocity, but recoil can be calculated mathmatically...rifle weight, powder volume, bullet weight and velocity.....the rest is just math.

[high country]

What does your wife hope to change? The 270 is so stinking close to both that it is not much of an improvement in performance. If looking for the wow factor, look at a 257roy.

[scottfrick]

Just wanting to add another rifle to the list. the 270 is her only rifle. The tikka t3s are extremely light and will be very nice for when we go on long hikes.

[bobcat]

You could just get her another 270 then, if she just wants a different rifle.

[Curly]

If it is a T3 that you're getting her, I think a 30-06 or 7mm mag would kick a lot for a lady.  Maybe a .308 or 7mm-08 instead.

[scottfrick]

i'll be getting the 270. We dont want to get two of the same exact guns so she decided to go one up. So the point of this thread was just asking what caliber she should get above a 270 that she can still shoot and enjoy rather than getting the pissed knocked out of her each time she shot it.

[scottfrick]

but now you got me thinking bobcat. Thinking about I should still get the 270 for my self, and have her get the 30-06, and when it kicks her to bad i'll just say " hey just use my rifle" and i'll use the 30-06. It'll be like getting 2 guns for my self:)

[JohnVH]

The 7mm magnum is going to kick harder than the 30-06, with everything else being equal (rifle weight, stock configuration, bullet weight, etc.)

The bigger case simply burns more powder and therefore will produce more recoil. Not enough difference to really notice though.

So your saying it will kick harder, then you say its not neough difference to really notice? 

I have both, I prefer the 7mag, my hotloads kick pretty good, but if you hold the gun right, you can shoot a box and barely get a bruise.

[bobcat]

The 7mm magnum is going to kick harder than the 30-06, with everything else being equal (rifle weight, stock configuration, bullet weight, etc.)

The bigger case simply burns more powder and therefore will produce more recoil. Not enough difference to really notice though.

So your saying it will kick harder, then you say its not neough difference to really notice? 

I have both, I prefer the 7mag, my hotloads kick pretty good, but if you hold the gun right, you can shoot a box and barely get a bruise.

Yes, I DID say that. Made perfect sense to me anyway.   

I guess what I meant to say is that I doubt anyone could tell the difference between a 7 mag and a 30-06, but mathematically, the 7 mag is going to have more recoil. It's just not a significant difference.

I just looked up some ballistics on Federals site, and they show the 7mm Rem. Mag. with a 160 grain Nosler Partition with a velocity of 2950 fps. They show the 30-06 with a 165 grain Partition at 2830 fps. That is so close that you can just consider them to be virtually the same. (performance wise and recoil wise)

[high country]

Look up rifle weights, then plug the numbers into a ballistic calculator...I believe jbm and others have free ones. Pay very close attention to recoil velocity. Anyone can stand a 70# recoil if it is slow..cut it in half but speed it up and it sucks.