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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2011, 09:46:39 AM »
Has to be false because the director Phil Anderson said the state has not and never will realease wolves they all came here from Canada and Idaho.

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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2011, 09:56:52 AM »
  If the number gets to 18bp (seen with pups) in the state, they will be delisted right away, there will not have to be a 3 yr. waiting period.  Unfornately, Olympia and WDFW can't count past ten.   

Even that is going to be to late.  We will have maybe 100 elk left on St. Helens, and 50 left in the peninsula.  Bigfoot already took all the elk in the Blues and Colockum.   The Rosies will be decimated so fast they will be here today wolf *censored* tomorrow....  Will take care of the problem of winter feeding grounds, golf courses, farmers having damage, etc... there will be no elk left period.
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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2011, 10:04:04 AM »
This just sent:

Dear Director Anderson,
 
I recently read on www.ifish.com that one of the members has pictures of wolves being released from a WDFW vehicle near Ellensburg. Please confirm or deny this. If this is just a bad rumor, I would like to alert the hunting community on www.hunting-washington.com with the truth.
 
I've been very interested in and have been following the progress of the Wolf Plan and the recent acceptance of that plan. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I understood that the DFW's policy was that the gray wolf would populate naturally from Idaho and Canada, and not be transplanted by WDFW or any other group. Has the policy changed?
 
I request the courtesy of a reply. Thank you so much in advance for your attention to my request.
 
Most Sincerely,
 
John W
Vancouver, WA
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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2011, 10:05:43 AM »
I read on another site that Elvis is still alive!

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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2011, 12:48:42 PM »
Don't forget it's also possible that these are wolves that are being "translocated" from another WA area. I'm still waiting on an answer from Mr. Anderson's office.
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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2011, 01:12:51 PM »
Don't forget it's also possible that these are wolves that are being "translocated" from another WA area.
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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2011, 01:16:17 PM »
What website are you pulling this from Wolves r us?
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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2011, 01:27:49 PM »
I couldn't find the thread on Ifish.  Maybe I just missed it, but I have a feeling it has been nuked.  The mods there are pretty heavy handed with topics like wolves and sealions.
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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2011, 03:58:04 PM »
I also heard from a taxidermist that he was contacted by a friend, his friend said" you will not beleive what we are watching right now, to wolves being released right now"  but i believe he said it was near deavenport. :dunno: just what i was told!

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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2011, 04:20:31 PM »
the WDFW will deny any number over 15 if they ever admit that. are they taking into consideration the already established packs here on the east side or just the ones they introduce? the three year waiting is only to give the antis time to raise money to fight it in the courts. then it will be another two years before a legal season opens and in 5 years that number of BP will be way beyond target umbers and the infestation will already be too far advanced. even with a season the numbers hunters will be allowed to harvest will be far too little to make a difference because quotas will be still in conjunction with the original 18 BP not the larger number that will have established itself in the 5 years before the season opens. they then will argue that wolves have not effected the big game heards and claim they have been "diepersed" to different areas which explains the lack of big game animals.

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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2011, 06:09:05 PM »
nothing but "Bravo Sierra"    really look to the right of the screen , dumb$#@$ are more into K -mart lay-aways,and "mom needs bino"s   really folks .they do not give a crap about the fricken wolve's . get a life . start with the Indians are killing more than their fair share. or Coyotes in Washington are Rabid.  "nobody cares", or "bigfoot is eating the elk" now that's is something that matters to "morons"

Nobody cares, about the wolve's , and soon to be including ME.   Jeez, enough with the suburban "legend" crap.
and someone needs to learn to spell DAVENPORT , Jeeeeez
and maybe the darn wolve's are Idterrod dogs in training.  If you don't have photo's .  HUSH ' :twocents:
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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2011, 08:09:43 PM »
This just sent:

Dear Director Anderson,
 
I recently read on www.ifish.com that one of the members has pictures of wolves being released from a WDFW vehicle near Ellensburg. Please confirm or deny this. If this is just a bad rumor, I would like to alert the hunting community on www.hunting-washington.com with the truth.
 
I've been very interested in and have been following the progress of the Wolf Plan and the recent acceptance of that plan. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I understood that the DFW's policy was that the gray wolf would populate naturally from Idaho and Canada, and not be transplanted by WDFW or any other group. Has the policy changed?
 
I request the courtesy of a reply. Thank you so much in advance for your attention to my request.
 
Most Sincerely,
 
John W
Vancouver, WA

I look forward to hearing the answer.

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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2011, 06:28:50 AM »
Here's the answer:


Dear Mr. Wallace,

Thank you for contacting the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) regarding a rumor that you recently saw on www.ifish.com that someone has pictures of wolves being released from a WDFW vehicle near Ellensburg.  The Director has asked Wildlife Program to respond to your email.

This is just another in a long line of rumors that we have heard, all of which involve wolves being brought into the state and released.  All of them are false.  Wolves are dispersing into Washington on their own from populations in Canada and adjacent states, thus there is no reason to deliberately reintroduce them.  WDFW has never reintroduced or transplanted wolves from other states or provinces into any part of Washington, nor has any other state or federal authority done this.  There are no plans to ever do this.

It is always interesting to try tracking down the source of the rumors – it would be interesting to see the pictures referred to in the note you read.  We are appreciative of you alerting us to another one and for asking whether it was true or not.  There are numerous false rumors that have surfaced over the years.  They include: 

1. A rumor that Weyerhaeuser parachuted 25 or more wolves into southwestern Washington in the 1960s.

2. A rumor that wolves have been secretly released in northeastern Washington by someone hiding them in a Schwan’s ice cream truck.

3. A rumor that wolves were secretly released in the central Cascades from a truck with Montana license plates in the late 1990s.

4.  A rumor that WDFW was transplanting wolves into northeastern Washington.  A picture of someone who helped WDFW capture and radio-collare a wolf from a resident Washington pack was put out on a website.  It was misrepresented as being in a different location and as proof that WDFW was transplanting wolves into Washington.  The person in the photograph corrected the false representation and gave the accurate information about the picture.  He had no idea who had gotten the photo and put false information with it.

5. A rumor that someone talked to the driver of a truck on the Spirit Lake Highway this past winter who said that he had just released 60 wolves at Mt. St. Helens.

6. A rumor that 900 wolves were released in Skagit County.

7. A rumor that 900 wolves were going to be being released on the Olympic Peninsula.

8. A rumor that the legislature authorized 19 breeding pairs of wolves to be introduced into Washington.   

 

We hope you will let others know that this particular rumor is false, as you suggested by alerting the hunting community on www.hunting-washington.com, and that perhaps you will alert the website as well.

 

If you are interested in learning more about wolves and wolf management in Washington, please see WDFW’s webpage on wolves (http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/).

 

Sincerely,

 

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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2011, 06:39:26 AM »
Here's the answer:


Dear Mr. Wallace,

Thank you for contacting the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) regarding a rumor that you recently saw on www.ifish.com that someone has pictures of wolves being released from a WDFW vehicle near Ellensburg.  The Director has asked Wildlife Program to respond to your email.

This is just another in a long line of rumors that we have heard, all of which involve wolves being brought into the state and released.  All of them are false.  Wolves are dispersing into Washington on their own from populations in Canada and adjacent states, thus there is no reason to deliberately reintroduce them.  WDFW has never reintroduced or transplanted wolves from other states or provinces into any part of Washington, nor has any other state or federal authority done this.  There are no plans to ever do this.

It is always interesting to try tracking down the source of the rumors – it would be interesting to see the pictures referred to in the note you read.  We are appreciative of you alerting us to another one and for asking whether it was true or not.  There are numerous false rumors that have surfaced over the years.  They include: 

1. A rumor that Weyerhaeuser parachuted 25 or more wolves into southwestern Washington in the 1960s.

2. A rumor that wolves have been secretly released in northeastern Washington by someone hiding them in a Schwan’s ice cream truck.

3. A rumor that wolves were secretly released in the central Cascades from a truck with Montana license plates in the late 1990s.

4.  A rumor that WDFW was transplanting wolves into northeastern Washington.  A picture of someone who helped WDFW capture and radio-collare a wolf from a resident Washington pack was put out on a website.  It was misrepresented as being in a different location and as proof that WDFW was transplanting wolves into Washington.  The person in the photograph corrected the false representation and gave the accurate information about the picture.  He had no idea who had gotten the photo and put false information with it.

5. A rumor that someone talked to the driver of a truck on the Spirit Lake Highway this past winter who said that he had just released 60 wolves at Mt. St. Helens.

6. A rumor that 900 wolves were released in Skagit County.

7. A rumor that 900 wolves were going to be being released on the Olympic Peninsula.

8. A rumor that the legislature authorized 19 breeding pairs of wolves to be introduced into Washington.   

 

We hope you will let others know that this particular rumor is false, as you suggested by alerting the hunting community on www.hunting-washington.com, and that perhaps you will alert the website as well.

 

If you are interested in learning more about wolves and wolf management in Washington, please see WDFW’s webpage on wolves (http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/).

 

Sincerely,

 

Wildlife Program Customer Service

(360)902-2515

Don't want to be a tinfoil hat kinda guy but it sort of seems that they went out of their way to say they didn't transplant wolves from out of state. Making sure that they didn't mention anything about relocating them within the state. Probably nothing but the wdfw tends to make me doubt their truthfulness sometimes....
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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2011, 06:48:36 AM »
I don't know. I'm not a big fan of their decisions lately, but for them to stick it out there by making a response is something significant. When they make a denial public like this, they're held accountable down the road. I say until we have any proof in the way of pictures or first-person accounts, we have our answer. Let's not create more problems than we already have.
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