buying a muzzle loader.

[Whitelightning]

Nice looking rifle!

[coyotewallace]

Thanks..I like it
 Knight "DISC Extreme - CarbonKnight, Thumbhole" in 52 cal
these are in 52 cal sabots

On the left Barnes .475 cal 375ger on the right Barnes .458 cal 300ger with 209  in front

[BOOM!!]

Congrats, that is a beautiful gun I love that carbon knight TH stock. On my 50 cal extreme I use the original 209 bolt with the western breach plug to shoot #11's. I think you will see what I mean when you get your kit, either bolt should work if the 52 cal is the same as the .50

[summit creek]

knight would be my 1st choice thompson center2nd after that all junk

[coyotewallace]

Congrats, that is a beautiful gun I love that carbon knight TH stock. On my 50 cal extreme I use the original 209 bolt with the western breach plug to shoot #11's. I think you will see what I mean when you get your kit, either bolt should work if the 52 cal is the same as the .50

Yep both will..I see what you mean.Guess my question at this point is how big the "window" that exposes the cap has to be in Wa.. Is there a Min. on the opening that you have to have? The reason I ask is the "window" that exposes the cap is smaller with the 209 bolt then the "window" you get with the bolt that the Western kit offers.
Any Idea?

[Sabotloader]

Congrats, that is a beautiful gun I love that carbon knight TH stock. On my 50 cal extreme I use the original 209 bolt with the western breach plug to shoot #11's. I think you will see what I mean when you get your kit, either bolt should work if the 52 cal is the same as the .50

Yep both will..I see what you mean.Guess my question at this point is how big the "window" that exposes the cap has to be in Wa.. Is there a Min. on the opening that you have to have? The reason I ask is the "window" that exposes the cap is smaller with the 209 bolt then the "window" you get with the bolt that the Western kit offers.
Any Idea?

There is no minimum mentioned in the rules it says 'visible and exposed when in the cocked and ready to fire position.'

This is a picture of the DISC Extreme I sent the State of Washington to get the new design approved.

[coyotewallace]

Mike,
So with that being said you really don't need the western bolt only the 209 bolt set to use the red jackets(not using them though) and then the BP and the nipple to run #11 or musket...right??

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what you gain with the western bolt is a little more room in the breech area which does come in handy especially if you are going to use musket. It is basically the same bolt only opened up a little bit. If I were to buy a new one I would order it with the western bolt but If I bought one that had the 209 bolt I would just order the proper breech plug.

[Sabotloader]

Mike,
So with that being said you really don't need the western bolt only the 209 bolt set to use the red jackets(not using them though) and then the BP and the nipple to run #11 or musket...right??

Not quite right... you can use the regular bolt if you are loading #11 caps with a capper - Musket caps and capper are to large to get in the bolt area.

The FPJ breech plug will not work to mount #11's or Musket caps - you have to have the Western Kit - Breech plug and either a #11 nipple or a Musket nipple installed in the Western Breech plug.

Does that make sense?

Here is a picture...

Here is a picture of the different bolts... Regular bolt on top - New Western Bolt in the middle and old Western Bolt on the bottom

[coyotewallace]

I C

[bugs n bones]

i like my model 700....

[Ned]

i like my model 700....

I have a stainless Model 700 50 cal in the safe if you know of anyone looking to buy one.

[Fishmasterdan]

Any body know ned? looks like the last time he was on here was over a month ago. I would like pick up his rem. 700.

[Ned]

Any body know ned? looks like the last time he was on here was over a month ago. I would like pick up his rem. 700.

I know him
I sent you a pm.

[Deep Forks]

Another vote for Knight.  Can't remember when I bought my first, but it was a long time ago and I still have it.