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Re: Some brown gold ATL
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2012, 04:42:34 PM »
I agree with you hardcorps. That is definetly a time to leave the herds alone.

Pianoman- I'm talking about the ones that never did hunt or fish in the 1st place.

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Re: Some brown gold ATL
« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2012, 05:08:25 PM »
I'm not doing anything wrong in the woods. There are some game wardens that are stand up guys and do an awesome job. But there are ones that dont hunt or fish and dont even know all the laws. Having a game warden tell me I needed to wear Orange while dove hunting because they are upland game pissed me off. How can they enforce the law when they don't know the law?

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Re: Some brown gold ATL
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2012, 05:16:42 PM »
I don't know if "winter" shed hunting the mule deer winter range in amongst migrated herds of concentrated mule deer has an affect..., but one could only conclude. 

What I have a  BIG PROBLEM with is those that go into the deer winter range (I'm talking Chelan/Okanogan counties) in the conditions that we've have these last several days.  The freezing rain on top of the snow makes it difficult for the deer to get around without injury to their lower leg/s.  I have seen blood in the snow in deer trails around my house the last couple of days.  Anyone who's spend any amount of time trekking around during the winter months with a hard ice crust over a snow knows what I'm talking about.

 :yeah: I agree, i also have a problem with shed hunters on snowmobiles already going out in these same areas and running all the ridges and valleys.  I have no problem with people looking at deer or snowmobilers doing the same thing. I have a problem with people chasing deer, and hitting these areas looking for sheds already especially with these conditions we have right now in these specific low valley areas in the heart of the winter range. 

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Re: Some brown gold ATL
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2012, 05:29:36 PM »
 :yeah: 

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Re: Some brown gold ATL
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2012, 05:42:47 PM »
Never mind will post pics next month when i reach the 100 mark

Wow, I think I would rather see the pics of those sheds than read that you really don't care about wildlife in a Major wintering area and brag about picking up 100 sheds during the time when the deer at at their most vulnerable.  Deer run when they see people, they are wild animals.  To me, deer running in steep country, during the late winter, in a wintering area, in the snow= Stress to me.  Not really sure how you can think any different.  I am sure guys will not think about it but you are really doing more harm than good. 

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Re: Personal opinions about shed hunting.
« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2012, 06:02:23 PM »
All good points and oponions, everyone is entitled to thier own and to each their own.  I will be out hiking roads with my shed dog and enjoying it. You can agree or disagree, thats fine its a free country. I find 90% of my sheds with my binos  not my legs, I hike way less and cover way less that the other 15 guys that have been up there the last 2 weeks. Its a zoo and that is just 1 cyn out of 100's 
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Re: Personal opinions about shed hunting.
« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2012, 06:09:57 PM »
Nice clean up.

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Re: Personal opinions about shed hunting.
« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2012, 06:23:16 PM »
You guys sound worse than a bunch of fly fishermen chewing out a kid for dunking a worm. I doubt a shed hunter has as much impact as a cougar hunting hard or worse yet, a pack of wolves hunting an area. There are still cow elk hunts open in Utah on winter range. I see deer standing all around when we are elk hunting till the end of January. Same story cougar hunting, I see deer all the time. What's the difference if a guy is picking up sheds, hunting cougar, snowmobiling, hunting cow elk, or predators hunting the area 24/7/365.  :dunno:
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Re: Personal opinions about shed hunting.
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2012, 06:37:36 PM »
No difference bearpaw. I don't blame shed hunters. I blame management. State should temporary close major wintering areas to all recreation. We need to protect our herds especially during harsh times.

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Re: Personal opinions about shed hunting.
« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2012, 06:40:16 PM »
Thats what will happen if someone doesn't have some self control.


I stayed home this weekend instead of shed hunting.   MY CHOICE.   Probably cost me 20 bones or so, but not worth it to me.   Not judgeing anyone, but was my choice.   I am sure someone will mop up on my choice.

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Re: Personal opinions about shed hunting.
« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2012, 06:43:00 PM »
Sorry I missed the pic by the way.  I bet it was a good one. 

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Re: Personal opinions about shed hunting.
« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2012, 06:58:21 PM »
You guys sound worse than a bunch of fly fishermen chewing out a kid for dunking a worm. I doubt a shed hunter has as much impact as a cougar hunting hard or worse yet, a pack of wolves hunting an area. There are still cow elk hunts open in Utah on winter range. I see deer standing all around when we are elk hunting till the end of January. Same story cougar hunting, I see deer all the time. What's the difference if a guy is picking up sheds, hunting cougar, snowmobiling, hunting cow elk, or predators hunting the area 24/7/365.  :dunno:
I AGREE BP,ALSO, THE LAST THING WE NEED IS MORE GOVERNMENT RULES. NEXT WE WILL HAVE TO GET A SHED HORN PASS. OR APPLY FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT, HEY I SHOULD DRAW I GOT 14 POINTS LOL

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Re: Personal opinions about shed hunting.
« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2012, 07:02:12 PM »
Many of the wintering areas that are state owned and under WDFW control, ARE closed until I believe May 1st.


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Re: Personal opinions about shed hunting.
« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2012, 07:02:44 PM »
 i agree completely we do not need the government making more rules.. :twocents: plus this is my time for training my kids on how to sneak through the woods

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Re: Some brown gold ATL
« Reply #44 on: January 29, 2012, 07:29:30 PM »
I've asked Outdoor Guardian if an ungulate biologist could make a comment on here regarding this issue. I, for one, would be interested in how much impact shed hunting has on ungulates at this time of year. I expect we'll see a post tomorrow sometime from a state biologist. In case you don't know, Outdoor Guardian is in the enforcement division of our DFW. He may have access to information that will make all of us better custodians of the resources that are important to us.

I think the sheds are really a nice find, by the way! :tup:

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Bios Worry About Shed Antler Hunters
Read through today’s Weekender Report and one thing is clear: Washington wildlife biologists are not keen about hunters.

But not your everyday hunters, rather the ones who track down shed deer, elk and moose antlers on winter range.

Right now, the animals those racks were only recently attached to are running very low on reserves and, say biologists, need their energy to forage rather than run away from people.

The bios are warning shed hunters to be cognizant of their potential impact on winter-weary animals.

“We know this is a popular time for some folks to get out collecting shed elk antlers,” says Bruce Berry at the Oak Creek Wildlife Area west of Yakima, “but the elk come first.”

His area has large winter closures, but oftentimes people don’t give two hoots. So last spring, hidden cameras were set up and recorded numerous trespassers on closed areas.

“I’ve got photos of violators — hikers, ATVers, Jeepers, going by our hidden cameras,” former Oak Creek manager John McGowan told Yakima Herald-Republic reporter Scott Sandsberry last May, in an article picked up by the Tri-Cities Herald.

Sandsberry writes about how WDFW got ahold of the cameras:

The $11,000 network of night-vision, motion-detecting cameras was provided this spring by Eyes in the Woods, an Olympia-based watchdog organization supporting the state wildlife department in catching or dissuading poachers and other law-breakers on wildlife land. And it wasn’t long after the cameras were installed that they began producing dividends.

“Less than 24 hours later, here’s somebody walking right by the camera, shed strapped to his back,” McGowan said.

“We are getting pounded by elk-antler hunters in the Blue Mountains,” says another bio, Paul Wik, in the Weekender.  “Too many are trespassing, traveling in winter closures, traveling behind locked gates, bumping animals accidently, and some even chasing animals trying to get antlers to fall off.  Individuals may not think this is a big deal, but overall it adds up to harassment of wildlife at the worst possible time of year.”

Wik notes there is currently a closure to motorized traffic in the Lick Creek Game Management Unit (GMU 175) in Garfield and Asotin counties, and closures to all human entry in the Cummings Creek area of WDFW’s Wooten Wildlife Area. These winter closures continue through April.

At Oak Creek, Berry reminds visitors that area and road closures – including Forest Service Road 1400 (Oak Creek Road), the Bethel Ridge Road which goes through the Oak Creek headquarters, and the Bethel Ridge/ Meloy Canyon Road — remain in effect until 6 a.m. on May 1 to limit disturbance to animals during the critical time of late winter and early spring.

Vehicle gates are closed to all entry on other wildlife areas in the region, too. The Mellotte Road into the Wenas Wildlife Area, the Robinson Canyon and Joe Watt Canyon roads into the L.T. Murray Wildlife Area, and roads on the Whiskey Dick and a portion of the Quilomene wildlife areas in Kittitas County are closed until May 1 to protect elk.

Up in the Methow, Okanogan district wildlife biologist Scott Fitkin of Winthrop reports large groups of mule deer are visible in the Methow Valley now.

“The deer are congregating on spring range at lower elevations to take advantage of early green-up,” Fitkin says. “Our Methow and Sinlahekin Wildlife Areas are good viewing spots.”

A panorama shot posted recently on Hunting-Washington shows at least 150 deer grazing and laying down on a well-browsed hillside; Fitkin, who reviewed the image for Northwest Sportsman, suspects it was taken at the Golden Doe unit south of Twisp.

Deer watchers who might also be interested in collecting shed deer antlers are urged to avoid pushing hungry deer off early green-up areas or otherwise disturbing them.

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