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Quote from: jackelope on January 29, 2012, 10:19:53 AMAddicted brings up an interesting point for discussion.Berger VLD's rely heavily on the rate of twist in the barrel I think, and their bullet that shines regarding the super high BC is their 7mm bullet. How does their .30 cal bullets stack up#1, #2 are they a good hunting bullet or are they a good target bullet?--I think on deer it doesn't matter much but when you get up into the elk/moose/bear sized animals anyway, and #3 what's your rate of twist in the barrel and how much will that matter? I'm not a long range guy so I don't know the answers here, just raising some possible points for talk.the Berger VLD is not a strong bullet, and they even claim to make it explode on purpose. But the reason it shines down range is because it is very accurate and has a great BC which helps keep it accurate, fast, and energized long range. It puts proof to the thought that 95% of killing an animal is putting the bullet in the right place. between 7mm bullets and .338 bullets covering the weights and BC's that they do there is almost no need for 30 cal bullets. a 7mm 140 boat tail has a BC of .485 which is nearly the .507 of the 180 grain 30 cal with less recoil.
Addicted brings up an interesting point for discussion.Berger VLD's rely heavily on the rate of twist in the barrel I think, and their bullet that shines regarding the super high BC is their 7mm bullet. How does their .30 cal bullets stack up#1, #2 are they a good hunting bullet or are they a good target bullet?--I think on deer it doesn't matter much but when you get up into the elk/moose/bear sized animals anyway, and #3 what's your rate of twist in the barrel and how much will that matter? I'm not a long range guy so I don't know the answers here, just raising some possible points for talk.
Quote from: addicted on January 29, 2012, 11:12:50 AMQuote from: jackelope on January 29, 2012, 10:19:53 AMAddicted brings up an interesting point for discussion.Berger VLD's rely heavily on the rate of twist in the barrel I think, and their bullet that shines regarding the super high BC is their 7mm bullet. How does their .30 cal bullets stack up#1, #2 are they a good hunting bullet or are they a good target bullet?--I think on deer it doesn't matter much but when you get up into the elk/moose/bear sized animals anyway, and #3 what's your rate of twist in the barrel and how much will that matter? I'm not a long range guy so I don't know the answers here, just raising some possible points for talk.the Berger VLD is not a strong bullet, and they even claim to make it explode on purpose. But the reason it shines down range is because it is very accurate and has a great BC which helps keep it accurate, fast, and energized long range. It puts proof to the thought that 95% of killing an animal is putting the bullet in the right place. between 7mm bullets and .338 bullets covering the weights and BC's that they do there is almost no need for 30 cal bullets. a 7mm 140 boat tail has a BC of .485 which is nearly the .507 of the 180 grain 30 cal with less recoil.so it would take a very heavy 30cal bullet to get the BC of a middleweight bullet in 7mm. Lets say the 180grn7mm vld with .659 BC. it would take a 208grn A-max to get up to .64 bc.
Quote from: addicted on January 29, 2012, 11:16:26 AMQuote from: addicted on January 29, 2012, 11:12:50 AMQuote from: jackelope on January 29, 2012, 10:19:53 AMAddicted brings up an interesting point for discussion.Berger VLD's rely heavily on the rate of twist in the barrel I think, and their bullet that shines regarding the super high BC is their 7mm bullet. How does their .30 cal bullets stack up#1, #2 are they a good hunting bullet or are they a good target bullet?--I think on deer it doesn't matter much but when you get up into the elk/moose/bear sized animals anyway, and #3 what's your rate of twist in the barrel and how much will that matter? I'm not a long range guy so I don't know the answers here, just raising some possible points for talk.the Berger VLD is not a strong bullet, and they even claim to make it explode on purpose. But the reason it shines down range is because it is very accurate and has a great BC which helps keep it accurate, fast, and energized long range. It puts proof to the thought that 95% of killing an animal is putting the bullet in the right place. between 7mm bullets and .338 bullets covering the weights and BC's that they do there is almost no need for 30 cal bullets. a 7mm 140 boat tail has a BC of .485 which is nearly the .507 of the 180 grain 30 cal with less recoil.so it would take a very heavy 30cal bullet to get the BC of a middleweight bullet in 7mm. Lets say the 180grn7mm vld with .659 BC. it would take a 208grn A-max to get up to .64 bc.A 180 7mm is far from a middleweight. most guns wont stabilize one. It takes a custom to even chamber one efficiently.
It won't likely shoot worth a hoot. Have you ever seen a 180 7mm? They will be seated super deep in order to fit in your mag. You could throat the rifle and do some custom work to get them to feed....$$