why no cow tags?

[buglebuster]

Just wondering why they don't issue any cow tags for the packwood or south ranier areas

[Biggerhammer]

Due to the fact, they don't know how the hell to manage elk.

[buglebuster]

Great point

[ICEMAN]

Saving them as a food resource for wolves?

[Biggerhammer]

Saving them as a food resource for wolves?

The wolves are going to have it great! Sleep half the day and spend the rest kicking big bull ass! What a life, doesn't get any better than that, no taxes, no one shooting at them, plenty of chick wolves to mingle with, tree humpers to traumatize on the trails and lots of elk ass to kick. where does a guy sign up?

[bobcat]

Those units are below objective, I believe. Unlike the Winston, Coweeman, Toutle, Margaret, where elk are overpopulated and dying in the winter. Besides, don't the indians take a good number of cow elk out of those units in the winter?




Seriously, take a look at the harvest reports. Not many elk taken out of Packwood and South Rainier units anymore. Those units need either some logging or some fires to open it up, otherwise there's not much feed there to support many elk.

[Bigshooter]

There are very few elk in these units.  Most of them live down low on private land where there is something for them to eat.

[dreamingbig]

Because they don't know how to count and one unit borders the National Park.  I don't think biology is the only reason there are no cow tags.

[Houndhunter]

Sure there is elk in the town of packwood, and alot come down to winter there. But other then that their really isn't many elk. All animal numbers down really, with the exception of lions. They got to many predators, and their is no food due to the lack of logging and fires. Its sad to see that area go to dirt, there are elk, just few and far between. Definitely not a place that should have any female harvest imo

[frostman]

Have killed bulls in Packwood, So. Rainier to be exact. Gave up on Packwood for the same reasons Bobcat brought up. The area thrived before insane liberals began to ALLOW tribes to kill in winter. Kind of daring WA State, like - "whatchagonnadoaboutit?"

Now they can point to a useless "treaty" signed 150 years ago when there were NOT any elk in the big bottom.

I say let the tribes kill all the deer, elk and bear in they can in Packwood anytime they want to - those are the species of animal that have ALWAYS inhabited the valley (because it is their treaty right, you know...sarcasm added).

Elk in Packwood were either brought in by rail early in the 20th century or followed the succession of clearcuts and bred with the transplants. Not subject to treaty rights.