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Re: Will you use Luminocks?
« Reply #120 on: February 09, 2012, 07:31:06 AM »
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Re: Will you use Luminocks?
« Reply #121 on: February 09, 2012, 07:54:57 AM »
Here is an excerpt of the letter and email sent by the Archery Coalition to Mr. Dave Ware and Jerry Nelson...

I am submitting this email to follow up on the letter from the Archery Coalition of Washington, as you are aware we are made up of board members from the WSAA, WSB and the TBW.  We have several issues we would like the Department to consider for improving the Bowhunters opportunities within our State. 

1.   Change the early elk season back to 8-21 Sept vice the starting date of the 1st
               Tuesday after Labor Day, and add our 1 day back that was taken away in 2009.

2.   Add more bowhunter opportunity in the late deer season within the 200 GMU’s, to
              alleviate over crowding within the Swakane GMU, preferably ALTA GMU 242.
3.   Add a late Archery elk hunt in the Quilomene for antlerless/spike.
4.   Change the early archery elk hunt in the Bumping GMU 356 from spike only to antlerless
               and spike, as calf recruitment is back at department goals.

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Re: Will you use Luminocks?
« Reply #122 on: February 09, 2012, 08:00:28 AM »
I do see your point about arguing about some lighted knocks seems kinda pointless to me too but I do believe the archery coalition has done a very good job with all the proposals this year.

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Re: Will you use Luminocks?
« Reply #123 on: February 09, 2012, 08:00:50 AM »
I have made my thoughts known on another hunting site as I don't have time to post on every site out there. Providing written requests and statistics to the WDFW to further support pre-agreed coalition goals sounds like furthering those goals to me.  If we can work to get the Bumping elk unit back it will do mo re to affect bowhunters than any lighted nock will.   :twocents:

To answer the question to this thread, I might use them.  I've lost arrows while hunting I'd like to have back.  Spending $10 doesn't sound like a lot to me after I take off a week of work, pay hundreds of dollars in gas to get to my hunting area, spending 2k plus on tags, etc. 

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Re: Will you use Luminocks?
« Reply #124 on: February 09, 2012, 08:05:09 AM »
I probably won't use them but I will be buying them to put on my son's arrows.  He's 10 and just got his first real bow.  He's still working on figuring things out and I'd like to be able to recover his occasional flyer

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Re: Will you use Luminocks?
« Reply #125 on: February 09, 2012, 08:19:11 AM »
I have made my thoughts known on another hunting site as I don't have time to post on every site out there. Providing written requests and statistics to the WDFW to further support pre-agreed coalition goals sounds like furthering those goals to me.  If we can work to get the Bumping elk unit back it will do mo re to affect bowhunters than any lighted nock will.   :twocents:

To answer the question to this thread, I might use them.  I've lost arrows while hunting I'd like to have back.  Spending $10 doesn't sound like a lot to me after I take off a week of work, pay hundreds of dollars in gas to get to my hunting area, spending 2k plus on tags, etc.

So you're continuing to comment on luminocks but don't have enough time to post about the issue you thought was so much more important? Right!  :dunno:
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Re: Will you use Luminocks?
« Reply #126 on: February 09, 2012, 08:22:26 AM »
Sweet baby christ! this issue is played out. All a luminock does is hel pyou see where your arrow went. THAT IS IT! if you dont like the $10 price tag dont buy them.
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Re: Will you use Luminocks?
« Reply #127 on: February 09, 2012, 09:01:06 AM »
Sweet baby christ! this issue is played out. All a luminock does is hel pyou see where your arrow went. THAT IS IT! if you dont like the $10 price tag dont buy them.

Respectfully disagree, Cory. An electric nock exception would knock a hole in the long-standing barrier that has kept electric gadgets out of our bowhunting seasons. If it is allowed what will follow will be a campaign my the maker of the broadhead that has a laser pointer in its tip. And the maker of electric sight pins will start gathering signatures on petitions. All will do so in the name of "less wounding" but what they really will be allowing is more shots that can be taken in less-than-favorable conditions (too far or too dark to see) and so more wounding loss would likely be the result. Bowhunting is not broken; it doesn't need an electronic fix.

A lot of folks will never understand why some of us who only bowhunt see this as a dangerous precedent. I happen to know having talked to many non-hunters, in fact some who are downright squeamish about hunting, that archery hunting in its purest form is more respected by those people than are the methods that don't give the animal as good a chance of escaping unharmed. They see old-fashioned archery hunting as a fair fight. But as every gadget and gizmo that someone can invent is allowed into seasons (and glorified on TV) the advantage is being tipped to the hunter and that, Cory, does not bode well for our image. And if we expect our grandkids to be able to go into the woods with bow in hand, we damn well better tend to our image.
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Re: Will you use Luminocks?
« Reply #128 on: February 09, 2012, 09:12:35 AM »
Respectfully Snapshot, I don't see any connection between lighted nocks and lighted sights or laser broadheads at all. Nocks do nothing to aid in shot placement or an increase in kill success ratios, only in finding the arrow and animal after the shot.

I also see no way approving lighted nocks will herald the beginning of the end for bowhunting.

Non-hunters who don't understand our sport have no opinions about the differences between a longbow and a compound, a lighted nock or not, instinctive or using a sight aiming. They have no idea what all of that means. I'm sure if you show someone the pluses for using modern equipment to affect a humane kill and a higher recovery rate, they'd be fine. If you touted the advantages of fair chase and primitive equipment, they'd be fine with that too. Which way is the wind blowing today? The best explanation will get the positive response from the uninformed non-hunter.

Luminocks are being used almost everywhere in the country and bow hunting hasn't lost any popularity. I won't use them but I don't care if someone else does. It's not the Armageddon of bow hunting for sure.
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Re: Will you use Luminocks?
« Reply #129 on: February 09, 2012, 09:13:09 AM »
A lot of folks will never understand why some of us who only bowhunt see this as a dangerous precedent. I happen to know having talked to many non-hunters, in fact some who are downright squeamish about hunting, that archery hunting in its purest form is more respected by those people than are the methods that don't give the animal as good a chance of escaping unharmed. They see old-fashioned archery hunting as a fair fight.

So just exactly what is "archery hunting in it's purest form"?  I am sure that is what you do, right?  A chunk of ceder, a senew string and home made arrows made out of some sticks you found with a sharp rock on the end? 
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Re: Will you use Luminocks?
« Reply #130 on: February 09, 2012, 09:31:01 AM »

Luminocks are being used almost everywhere in the country and bow hunting hasn't lost any popularity. I won't use them but I don't care if someone else does. It's not the Armageddon of bow hunting for sure.

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Re: Will you use Luminocks?
« Reply #131 on: February 09, 2012, 09:48:27 AM »
A lot of folks will never understand why some of us who only bowhunt see this as a dangerous precedent. I happen to know having talked to many non-hunters, in fact some who are downright squeamish about hunting, that archery hunting in its purest form is more respected by those people than are the methods that don't give the animal as good a chance of escaping unharmed. They see old-fashioned archery hunting as a fair fight.

So just exactly what is "archery hunting in it's purest form"?  I am sure that is what you do, right?  A chunk of ceder, a senew string and home made arrows made out of some sticks you found with a sharp rock on the end?

Actually, there was never a time in our history when you could find a stick with a sharp rock stuck on the end. Adding a rock to the end of a stick was deemed an improvement. Man is still attempting to improve the sharp thing on the end...man is also still attempting to improve the stick itself. The other end of that same stick has not been addressed as much because it does not do the killing, it only has a small role in the successful launch and flight of the stick. Whether it glows in the dark or not is a moot point in my mind. 
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Re: Will you use Luminocks?
« Reply #132 on: February 09, 2012, 11:09:06 AM »

Luminocks are being used almost everywhere in the country and bow hunting hasn't lost any popularity. I won't use them but I don't care if someone else does. It's not the Armageddon of bow hunting for sure.

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There is a pretty big difference between us and most of them other states.  Most of the other states have not pitted the user groups against each other as this state has.  Almost all of those other 44 states where they are legal, a person can buy a archery permit, a rifle permit and a muzzleloader permit. 
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Re: Will you use Luminocks?
« Reply #133 on: February 09, 2012, 11:13:24 AM »

Luminocks are being used almost everywhere in the country and bow hunting hasn't lost any popularity. I won't use them but I don't care if someone else does. It's not the Armageddon of bow hunting for sure.

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There is a pretty big difference between us and most of them other states.  Most of the other states have not pitted the user groups against each other as this state has.  Almost all of those other 44 states where they are legal, a person can buy a archery permit, a rifle permit and a muzzleloader permit.

You'll get no argument from me there.
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Re: Will you use Luminocks?
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