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Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« on: March 25, 2012, 11:18:05 AM »
I seem to recall in previous years that if a small game license was purchased after a big game license was already purchased, the price was the same as purchasing the small game and big game licenses at the same time.

I purchased a 2012 big game license earlier this year.  I purchased a small game license today and was charged the full price ($38.00), versus the price of $21.50 which is "small game with big game".

Does this sound correct?
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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2012, 11:25:34 AM »
Ridiculously its right. I noticed this last year when I bought my small game license last year in October, lame sauce I say

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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2012, 11:28:41 AM »
I'll have to look back to make sure, but I remember paying the lower price when I added my small game last year.

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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2012, 11:31:11 AM »
Yes, I was told they changed this last year.  Purchased big game last year.  Then later in the season, I went to get small game and was told that they had just changed the rules on pricing.  I said "I purchased my tags before the change"  they tried to contact FG to get me the discount price, but couldn't get a hold of anyone.  Tired of this *censored*, not hunting this year.   :bash:

The change was made mid season last year when they uped the prices of tags that is why some of you might not have noticed.  If you bought your big game before the change, your small game added later should have been the lower price.  Not anymore though, not sure why.  :dunno:
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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2012, 11:33:11 AM »
" Not anymore though, not sure why."

I could make an educated guess... :bash:
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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2012, 10:22:53 AM »
I like the way Oregon has it set up.........

Res. hunting lic. 29.50 (no small games b.s.)
Deer tag 24.50
Elk tag 42.50
total 96.50

We, on the other hand
Deer+elk+ small games (if discounted) 104.50 or with out discount--- total 121.00
Or if you purchase each license seperatly 42.90 (deer) 48.50 (elk) 38.50 (small games) --- total 129.90

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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2012, 11:08:53 AM »
Yep, they did change this last year. That's why I never purchased my small game license in 2011. I intended to purchase it at a later time, but then I found out it was going to cost the full $38. So for that reason I was not able to go goose hunting with my neighbor the couple of times that he asked me to go.

This year I just bought everything at once. Except for fishing. And shellfish. I'll have to do without those this year so I can keep the cost down somewhat.


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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2012, 01:09:07 PM »
I like the way Oregon has it set up.........

Res. hunting lic. 29.50 (no small games b.s.)
Deer tag 24.50
Elk tag 42.50
total 96.50

We, on the other hand
Deer+elk+ small games (if discounted) 104.50 or with out discount--- total 121.00
Or if you purchase each license seperatly 42.90 (deer) 48.50 (elk) 38.50 (small games) --- total 129.90

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Or even better - just buy the Sports Pac.

"The Sportsman's License (Sports Pac) includes a Combination Angling/Hunting License, black bear tag (general season or controlled 700 series, not leftover bear tags), general cougar tag, one elk and one deer tag (general season or controlled 100 and 200 series hunts, not leftover deer and elk tags), upland game bird validation, Oregon waterfowl validation, spring turkey and combined angling harvest"

For a grand total of....... $164.75.

Yes, please.


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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2012, 02:57:50 PM »

Or even better - just buy the Sports Pac.

"The Sportsman's License (Sports Pac) includes a Combination Angling/Hunting License, black bear tag (general season or controlled 700 series, not leftover bear tags), general cougar tag, one elk and one deer tag (general season or controlled 100 and 200 series hunts, not leftover deer and elk tags), upland game bird validation, Oregon waterfowl validation, spring turkey and combined angling harvest"

For a grand total of....... $164.75.

Yes, please.
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If I added it up correctly, to get the same licenses and tags in WA it would cost you $243.15 (not counting $82.50 for Western WA Phesant permit , which would bring it up to $325.65) including your Discovery extortion fee.

That's double from Oregon for the same tags! But, in all fairness you have to apply for all mule deer rifle hunts, and the first rifle seAason for Rocky Mountian elk, plus the application fee,m which is $8 per species.
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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2012, 03:12:09 PM »
I just bought the equivalent of the Sports Pac (sans the saltwater license) and it was 188 buck total.  The saltwater fishing option should only add about 25 bucks to that, so I think your math might be a little off.
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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2012, 07:17:21 PM »
I think the thought process with the constant rise in prices to legally participate in the outdoor activities is going to have a negative effect. One, we the responsible hunter/fisher that are on a tight budget have to rethink were our money goes which in effect means less tag/license/report cards purchased. This could equal less money that the State agencies receive.  Second, those that have no respect for the law or our natural resources will create an epidemic in poaching because of the increased prices.

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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2012, 09:43:05 PM »
 :yeah:
I think the thought process with the constant rise in prices to legally participate in the outdoor activities is going to have a negative effect. One, we the responsible hunter/fisher that are on a tight budget have to rethink were our money goes which in effect means less tag/license/report cards purchased. This could equal less money that the State agencies receive.  Second, those that have no respect for the law or our natural resources will create an epidemic in poaching because of the increased prices.

Just my opinion.
 


 :yeah: I think in this case, charging more will equate to less revenue for the state.
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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2012, 10:26:37 PM »
:yeah:
I think the thought process with the constant rise in prices to legally participate in the outdoor activities is going to have a negative effect. One, we the responsible hunter/fisher that are on a tight budget have to rethink were our money goes which in effect means less tag/license/report cards purchased. This could equal less money that the State agencies receive.  Second, those that have no respect for the law or our natural resources will create an epidemic in poaching because of the increased prices.

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 :yeah: I think in this case, charging more will equate to less revenue for the state.

Well last year WDFW had the most revenue on record in terms of licensing.....

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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2012, 10:28:42 PM »
Well last year was the most profitable for WDFW in terms of licensing.....

I think this year will be even more so due to the price of the quality applications being double what it was last year. Not many people are going to skip applying for the quality hunts after already getting started in the game.


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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2012, 05:19:29 AM »
I did not realize that WDFW had an increase in revenue. I just keep hearing a deep projected deficit within State agencies. With the increased revenue do you think we will see more of an effort in enforcement? I don't recall hearing anything about increasing the number of wardens in the field. More income should equate to more jobs I would think. Guess I am being naive on the subject.
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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2012, 06:51:25 AM »
I'd guess that any increase in revenue from license sales would just help to make up for a loss of money coming out of the general fund.


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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2012, 08:30:04 AM »
I'd guess that any increase in revenue from license sales would just help to make up for a loss of money coming out of the general fund.

 :yeah:

While the funds in the Wildlife Fund are increasing due to license sales, the amount of funding from the General Fund is decreasing. So there is actually not an increase in funding for WDFW, they are still operating at a lot less then they were just 5 years ago.....

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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2012, 08:56:52 AM »
On a personal note, last year at this time I bought a Big/Small Game license with deer tag.  This year I just bought the Small Game license.  If I decide to deer hunt this year, I'll buy a Big Game w/Deer Tag later, but my deer hunting buddy was such a PITA last year, i hope I don't have to....  >:(
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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2012, 08:58:26 AM »
Raising license fees is not the answer, either.

Perhaps I'm not in the majority, but I can't justify paying the additional monies for all the applications. Sure, I don't have to apply for them, but why should I get priced out of my own state? $13+ for a quality application? In this state? What a joke. Sure, it'll probably lower the number of applicants and my opp goes up, but I don't believe in it.

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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2012, 08:59:42 AM »
On a personal note, last year at this time I bought a Big/Small Game license with deer tag.  This year I just bought the Small Game license.  If I decide to deer hunt this year, I'll buy a Big Game w/Deer Tag later, but my deer hunting buddy was such a PITA last year, i hope I don't have to....  >:(

 :dunno:   What, does he force you to hunt with him or something?


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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2012, 09:35:57 AM »
With licensing fees going up yearly, there will be fewer hunters and fishermen, so the state is shooting themselves in the foot. With gas prices going through the roof, I seriously considering not buying anything this year. How many other folks are thinking the same thing?
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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2012, 10:52:17 AM »
On a personal note, last year at this time I bought a Big/Small Game license with deer tag.  This year I just bought the Small Game license.  If I decide to deer hunt this year, I'll buy a Big Game w/Deer Tag later, but my deer hunting buddy was such a PITA last year, i hope I don't have to....  >:(

 :dunno:   What, does he force you to hunt with him or something?

No, but a whole weekend of constant whining about his health problems pi$$ed me off.  Plus his insistence that he had to stop and get something to eat in the morning to raise his "blood sugar" made us miss the best hour of hunting of the day.  And he takes pain meds at night and washes them down with booze, then complains in the morning that he can't take a dump.

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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2012, 10:55:47 AM »
On a personal note, last year at this time I bought a Big/Small Game license with deer tag.  This year I just bought the Small Game license.  If I decide to deer hunt this year, I'll buy a Big Game w/Deer Tag later, but my deer hunting buddy was such a PITA last year, i hope I don't have to....  >:(

 :dunno:   What, does he force you to hunt with him or something?

No, but a whole weekend of constant whining about his health problems pi$$ed me off.  Plus his insistence that he had to stop and get something to eat in the morning to raise his "blood sugar" made us miss the best hour of hunting of the day.  And he takes pain meds at night and washes them down with booze, then complains in the morning that he can't take a dump.

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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2012, 12:01:51 PM »
On a personal note, last year at this time I bought a Big/Small Game license with deer tag.  This year I just bought the Small Game license.  If I decide to deer hunt this year, I'll buy a Big Game w/Deer Tag later, but my deer hunting buddy was such a PITA last year, i hope I don't have to....  >:(

 :dunno:   What, does he force you to hunt with him or something?

No, but a whole weekend of constant whining about his health problems pi$$ed me off.  Plus his insistence that he had to stop and get something to eat in the morning to raise his "blood sugar" made us miss the best hour of hunting of the day.  And he takes pain meds at night and washes them down with booze, then complains in the morning that he can't take a dump.

You looking for a deer hunting partner?  I'll give him to you!
:chuckle: Sorry! it's not funny but......... :chuckle:

I'd think it was funny too, only it happened to me!  The sad thing is, it's for his benefit--I don't really care for venison.  :'(
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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2012, 12:04:14 PM »
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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2012, 07:46:19 PM »
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Yeah, I know.  Sounds nuts for a hunter to say that.  I've eaten Elk, Antelope, Rabbit, Squirrel (the big greys, not the Ground Squirrels) and liked them all.  I guess some poorly cooked venison just turned me off....  :sry:
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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2012, 08:46:05 PM »
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I don't really care for venison
   

:yike:

Yeah, I know.  Sounds nuts for a hunter to say that.  I've eaten Elk, Antelope, Rabbit, Squirrel (the big greys, not the Ground Squirrels) and liked them all.  I guess some poorly cooked venison just turned me off....  :sry:

Honestly, I cannot tell the difference between deer and elk meat, and I've eaten a lot of both.




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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2012, 10:15:48 PM »
I can't speak for anyone else, but I can tell the difference between between deer and elk - I've got some Napoleon Dynamite skills.  :chuckle:  There is a major difference in feed which contributes. But they're equally tasty, as long as they're prepared correctly (don't burn the sh*t out of them).

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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2012, 10:19:10 PM »
The only time I know what I'm eating is if I read the "deer" or "elk" written on the package before it's cooked. A lot of times I get home from work and my wife has dinner ready, and I always have to ask, is this deer or elk? Half the time she doesn't even know, because she doesn't even look to see what's written on the package.

But, I very well could be the only person on this earth who can't tell the difference between deer and elk.   :dunno:


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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2012, 10:42:09 PM »
This started out as a Hunting License topic!  My gawd!  Where did it all go wrong????  :chuckle:  :chuckle:  :sry:
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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2012, 10:43:31 PM »
It went wrong when a "hunter" on here posted that he does not like to eat deer meat!   :o


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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2012, 11:01:39 PM »
It went wrong when a "hunter" on here posted that he does not like to eat deer meat!   :o

Guess that's why I've gone to mostly Predator hunting.  I love to hunt, I just don't eat that much of anything any more, and don't have the space to store it anyway.  I've probably passed up more shots at deer than most hunters even have seen.
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Re: Small Game License purchased after Big Game License
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2012, 10:11:37 PM »
Yes, I was told they changed this last year.  Purchased big game last year.  Then later in the season, I went to get small game and was told that they had just changed the rules on pricing.  I said "I purchased my tags before the change"  they tried to contact FG to get me the discount price, but couldn't get a hold of anyone.  Tired of this *censored*, not hunting this year.   :bash:

The change was made mid season last year when they uped the prices of tags that is why some of you might not have noticed.  If you bought your big game before the change, your small game added later should have been the lower price.  Not anymore though, not sure why.  :dunno:
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