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Re: Possible wolf attack.
« Reply #45 on: March 26, 2012, 11:56:18 AM »
I am not saying it was a wolf or wasn't because we really have no way of knowing but if it was and there is still a wolf out there that is willing to attack humans it is a very bad thing.  What happens if it turns out to be a wolf and someone gets killed?  Will the WDFW be under fire for not alerting the public to the possibility?

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Re: Possible wolf attack.
« Reply #46 on: March 26, 2012, 01:48:42 PM »
I didn't read all that was written just the first couple posts.

Here's my experience at reporting a wolf sighting to WDFW:

A neighbor who lives 2 or 3 miles away heard a loud commotion in his backyard. He went out to see what was happening and wolves were circling his kennel of german shepards trying to attack them. He ran into the house and came back out, now there were five adult wolves trying to attack his german shepards, he was afraid the wolves were going to go over the top of the keenel fencing so he fired shots in the air to scare them off. As soon as he started shooting the wolves took off.

I went to school with this guy and he has lived in this area his entire life. His dad was a principal in our local scool system for years. He has seen deer, bear, cougar, moose, and countless coyotes on his property which is at the base of a large mountain area. I beleive everything the guy told me and there is no doubt in my mind that he saw 5 wolves or wolf hybrids. I asked him if I could report the incident and he agreed.

I notified WDFW and in a day or two recieved a less than pleasant phone call from the Region 1 manager, telling me they were coyotes before the investigation was even complete. He also went on to chew me out for copying the information to my legislators. I lost all respect for that man and will publicly tell him that to his face when I get the chance. For his superiors in Olympia, if you even care, his name is Steve Pozzanghera, I suggest you send him to a customer service class and tell him to show the public a little more respect.

I have spent a fair amount of time outdoors and have never seen or heard of 5 adult coyotes traveling together in the summer time, much less attacking german shepards who weight 3 to 4 times as much as most coyotes. I told that to Pozzanghera and he had no reply.

That is the current situation in WDFW, at least some of their personel have been covering up all the wolf sightings they can. Only due to the outcry of citizens and the transfer of wolf management to the wildlife management department is there finally some effort to document sightings.

I hope the lady in Tonasket has a much more pleasant experience with the WDFW. :twocents:

Question for those in the know.  You report wolf sightings on your property 3-4 times, with an incident like this, another time maybe it's tracks or a blurry trail cam pic, and they are sworn off as coyotes or hybrids everytime.  The next time it happens, you say "F it" and shoot one or 2 of those Coyote/hybrids before the rest scatter.  Then you call the authorities and they find out it was actually a wolf.  Will you get into trouble?  Very good question indeed.
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Re: Possible wolf attack.
« Reply #47 on: March 26, 2012, 01:50:59 PM »
Of course you will get in trouble that is why i'm so upset at the double stanard. I think you will see more wolves in peoples yards as there is more competion for food.
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Re: Possible wolf attack.
« Reply #48 on: March 26, 2012, 02:23:39 PM »
Who's the guy here that works for the WDFW?  I'd like to hear his answer

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Re: Possible wolf attack.
« Reply #49 on: March 26, 2012, 02:27:40 PM »
OutdoorGaurdian... OG for short!  :chuckle:
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Re: Possible wolf attack.
« Reply #50 on: March 26, 2012, 02:34:15 PM »
Seems rediculous that, if you've been told multiple times the animals you are seeing are not wolves because there are no wolves in the area, that you could get into trouble for killing one.  It sucks because, if that were the case, people would, after seeking help, SSS to stay out of trouble instead of being able to contact the state, without fear of reprimand, to report the animal so they could DNA test and confirm more packs.

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Re: Possible wolf attack.
« Reply #51 on: March 26, 2012, 03:08:13 PM »
If you shot one,I think the trick would be calling the local news and showing them the remains before reporting it to Fish and Wildlife.  There was a case of a pack eating a guy in Sun Valley area a few years ago.  He flipped his quad in the snow and got pinned, his wife and kids were in the area and heard the pack.  He may have dead when the wolves got to him- who knows- One of my Dad's crew was in one the search and rescue party.  When they found what was left, there wasn't any doubt what had happened.  The only surprising thing, they said, was that there wasn't a peep in the news about it.

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Re: Possible wolf attack.
« Reply #52 on: March 26, 2012, 03:23:51 PM »
In all fairness since WDFW moved wolf management to the Game Management Dept from the Endangered Species Dept, we are seeing progress in the handling of wolf sightings. WDFW is collecting sightings and posting them online now. Donny Martorello has been in touch and he says they will post all the sighting here on H-W once I get coordinates for the sightings.
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Re: Possible wolf attack.
« Reply #53 on: March 26, 2012, 03:33:17 PM »
My family had a wolf hybrid growing up, with my brothers and i ranging from 4-11 years old. Best dog we ever owned.

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Re: Possible wolf attack.
« Reply #54 on: March 26, 2012, 06:49:11 PM »
Yes, there are situations with hybrids living a life without incidences, but it's 50% plus with the rates on non-incidental and incidental lives of hybrids.
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Re: Possible wolf attack.
« Reply #55 on: March 26, 2012, 07:21:27 PM »
Yes, there are situations with hybrids living a life without incidences, but it's 50% plus with the rates on non-incidental and incidental lives of hybrids.

You got a source for that?

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Re: Possible wolf attack.
« Reply #56 on: March 26, 2012, 07:35:29 PM »
At my hand? No. I can dig it up this weekend though.
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Re: Possible wolf attack.
« Reply #57 on: March 26, 2012, 10:45:04 PM »
Yes, there are situations with hybrids living a life without incidences, but it's 50% plus with the rates on non-incidental and incidental lives of hybrids.

You got a source for that?
Haha- What...a source???  You mean you don't believe his statistics?  I'll standby while he srounges around on google to find some shread of evidence to back a made up claim.

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Re: Possible wolf attack.
« Reply #58 on: March 26, 2012, 11:22:09 PM »
Yeah i would like to hear where you got that from also? And why this weekend? Its Monday? Is it really gunna take you a week to find your info that you have already read?

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Re: Possible wolf attack.
« Reply #59 on: March 27, 2012, 04:59:24 AM »
I work 11-13 days. I get home, check messages, eat and go to bed.
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