mult-season..archery?

[Curly]

Hewie the regs wont even be formally adopted till 4-13/14. Im not beating on my chest hewie boy, im beatin on the WDFW and whoever proposed the rule change to allow archers into the ML seasons. If the regs are being printed now i'd sure like the phone no: of the printer. Help a brother out here wont ya?

The meetings are just a formality, they already have there minds made up.

    It's a done deal.  It is frustrating, but that is the way it seems.

[washelkhunter]

He probably knows, just like a lot of us know, that in the past the regulations have been available just a few days after the April meeting in which they supposedly were just approved and adopted. Those print shops sure work amazingly fast.   

Heres the truth:  I just called Seattle Times Publishing, the regs are scheduled to be printed on 4-23. 

[Snapshot]

He probably knows, just like a lot of us know, that in the past the regulations have been available just a few days after the April meeting in which they supposedly were just approved and adopted. Those print shops sure work amazingly fast.   

Heres the truth:  I just called Seattle Times Publishing, the regs are scheduled to be printed on 4-23. 

...which gives them ten days to react to any floor changes that the commission makes in their decision process. Very typical...nothing clandescent about it. Just business as usual.

[Snapshot]

What a bunch of bull...(no disrespect...just gonna call this like I see it). Why, washelkhunter, do you have it out for archery hunters? You have made some decent points so I know you aren't a fool, but one could certainly take such nonsense for foolishness. Cannot you see that the hunters who stand to gain from this stupid proposal are the ones who are paying top dollar for hunting? They are the multi-tag winners...check that...not winners...rather BUYERS. ...buying the privilege to hunt any dang time and place they want whilst longbowmen like me and muzzle loaders like you are faced with ever shrinking amounts of time in the field. I hope you are successful in your quest. It shouldn't be all about the money but it has become that way, and maybe if you are successful it will take the money grubbers down a notch.
Forgive my bluntness, please.

[washelkhunter]

What a bunch of bull...(no disrespect...just gonna call this like I see it). Why, washelkhunter, do you have it out for archery hunters? You have made some decent points so I know you aren't a fool, but one could certainly make such nonsense for foolishness. Cannot you see that the hunters who stand to gain from this stupid proposal are the ones who are paying top dollar for hunting? They are the multi-tag winners...check that...not winners...rather BUYERS. ...buying the privilege to hunt any dang time and place they want whilst longbowmen like me and muzzle loaders like you are faced with ever shrinking amounts of time in the field. I hope you are successful in your quest. It shouldn't be all about the money but it has become that way, and maybe if you are successful it will take the money grubbers down a notch.
Forgive my bluntness, please.

I have nothing against archers. When i've drawn the MS tag i hunt with archery gear during AR season. Muzzleloader during ML season because thats the rule, You use ML only during ML season. Archery only during AR season. Its really not to difficult to comprehend  is it? 

[Snapshot]

Is it so difficult to comprehend that the probable REASON this was pursued by whomsoever was to benefit buyers of the Multi-season permits? Darn few others would gain anything by it! It appears to me to be the department's way of appeasing their top-dollar spenders; people like YOU who can afford to buy a multi-season permit.

[washelkhunter]

Is it so difficult to comprehend that the probable REASON this was pursued by whomsoever was to benefit buyers of the Multi-season permits? Darn few others would gain anything by it! It appears to me to be the department's way of appeasing their top-dollar spenders; people like YOU who can afford to buy a multi-season permit.

Right! Benefiting one usergroup over another. You are right i can afford to p/up the ms tag i drew for deer this year, but im not. $180 bucks for one deer? Someone here proposed 3 transport tags for ms and i think thats what we need for that sort of money. 1 for AR, ML and MF. With the current weapon restrictions of course for each season.

[Snapshot]

Right! Benefiting one usergroup over another. You are right i can afford to p/up the ms tag i drew for deer this year, but im not. $180 bucks for one deer? Someone here proposed 3 transport tags for ms and i think thats what we need for that sort of money. 1 for AR, ML and MF. With the current weapon restrictions of course for each season.

So, "what we need" is for only the wealthy get to hunt? Chriminy! First folks get divided up by weapon (which I really don't have a problem with) and now it appears you'd suggest we should be further divided by social class (which I think really blows). I think you would fit in nicely over in Europe, WEH.

I'm getting the *#/@ away from this computer for a few days....see y'all.

[NWWABOWHNTR]

Yep, dale thats what its coming too.... lets just cut the chase and do away with "general seasons" and go to draw only... Geez washelk, are you really believing everything you are posting?  Is your name Dave and work for the Department?

[washelkhunter]

Dave who and what is his involvement?

[Curly]

Dave Ware.  The permit system is his baby.

[washelkhunter]

Dave Ware.  The permit system is his baby.

Is he a commissioner and did he initiate the rule change to allow AR in ML season?

[Bob33]

Let me guess: "Public input and polls indicated that a vast majority of Washington hunters were in favor of allowing archery equipment during muzzleloading seasons".

[Curly]

Dave Ware.  The permit system is his baby.

Is he a commissioner and did he initiate the rule change to allow AR in ML season?

No, not a commissioner.  He is a WDFW employee........Game Division Manager.  He started the current permit system and will likely be the one saying the quote that Bob33 just posted.  I would assume that the proposal to allow archery during ML seasons would have been blessed by Dave Ware or even could be his idea.

[CoachNemo]

This may sound naive and a bit uneducated as I am new to hunting and what not.

Couldn't the state make more money if they allowed you to outright purchase a multi-season tag and allow for you to use a "lesser" weapon during any season?

Say you have a hunter that wants to hunt as often as he can, let him or her purchase a $300 "multi-season" tag and they can hunt with their bow during any of the seasons. 

ML the same but only for ML and Modern, costing let's say $200.

Modern price stays the same.

Individual seasons can stay the same as well, if you only want to hunt with a bow during archery season, ML during ML or modern during modern.

I understand during the rut the woods would be filled with hunters, but wouldn't this allow for more opportunities as well?  As a newbie I would rather spend the money and give myself the flexibility to go as often as possible.

Just my