BBC Methow Wolf Documentary Posted

[hirshey]

Well, there's a lot of editing that can occur to get 30 seconds of someone that could've been interviewed for a couple of hours.

Agreed. The footage they used at the beginning of the show is the summation of all the most pointed things the interviewees said. Watching even the length of video they allowed some of those interviewees later on, you see a little more insight to their arguements than the "S-S-S, poison-them-all" attitude they portrayed early on.

It's funny; after being subject to an interview for the Methow Valley News on my experience with those wolves this last fall, I certainly feel for anyone who doesn't have control over how their point of view or experiences are painted in a final product.. 

[humanure]

"Can you imagine what that poor animal suffered through as it died?!"

Not unlike the similar and sometimes worse treatment of livestock in slaughterhouses.

[hirshey]

"Can you imagine what that poor animal suffered through as it died?!"

Not unlike the similar and sometimes worse treatment of livestock in slaughterhouses.

Its good to recall that both sides are using emotional warfare. What about all those "poor wolves suffering at the hands of the knuckle-dragging hunters"?

A lot of name calling, emotionally-charged ventures from both sides.

I would like to see management remain science-based; which means neither side will be satisfied because wolves will remain, but in lesser numbers than some would hope.

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

It's the science to control the population that they will get horribly wrong.  Kill em all is a bad way to explain the solution.  But to let the pro wolf activists jeopardize my and my family's hunting rights by supporting every aspect of the wolf is out of the question.  All the way down to the complet extinction of all other game in the geographical location.  They have to be seeing the devistating affects of wolf packs and ignoring it so there cause look just to the public denying the facts.  If they were the environmentalist they claim to be they would be honest and controversial in there media and there studies.

[washelkhunter]

Canadian wolves - Smoke a pack-a-day! 

[BOWHUNTER45]

 

[Alchase]

Code 6328?
I seriously hope the WDFW changed the code to their HQ with all those weapons in there, 42 minute, lol

Isn't this the video that was supposed to show Idabooner's interview?

[hoytem]

Funny how they use Yellowstone as an example of wolves helping manage herds. There is no hunting allowed in Yellowstone. Hunters have been and still are the top predator managing herds in almost all areas outside of yellowstone. We don't need them! I wonder how the animals in the Cascades have been surviving so long without the "majestic wolf?"

[ghosthunter]

Exactly, The herds have made it this far without the wolves. I found the location of the southern pack interesting. There use to be a Master Hunter elk hunt down that way.
Not any more, I think they are giving those elk to the wolves.

Kinda of gutsy to show the locations of the packs the way most people feel about wolves.
I hunted the lookout area for years and recognized several locations.

[hoytem]

I just assumed that the southern pack was the Teanaway?

[whuppinstick]

I watched the first hour last night and the second just now and I have to say that I thought they were pretty good movies.  Sure, if I wanted to find things that bugged me, I could.  I was annoyed with that woman during the first episode, but for the most part I thought they were well-done films and I don't think they painted hunters in a bad light.  I do think they painted poachers in a bad light, but rightfully so.  I thought it was pretty cool that the woman went out with the Idaho hunter, even acknowledging that it was hard for her but then having a productive conversation with the guy (and props to him for agreeing to take her out!).  I was impressed that they both agreed that sustainably managing the wolves via hunting is a good solution.  While it is unfortunate they didn't interview any of the radicals from the wolf-loving, lawsuit-submitting side, I was pleased they made the implied point that the future of wolves will include a hunting season like in Idaho.

Hirshey, I agree with you on how people are painted in videos and I have no question that the simplistic nature in which they portrayed some of the 'experts' in the movies would annoy them just as much as selectively pulling "shoot 'em all" clips might have misrepresented the Twisp guys.  It goes both ways, I'm sure, so hopefully it balances out?

[danderson]

The overall quality of the documentaries was fairly accurate , I think the ranchers were just being honest, I wish they could have included some local family's from the twisp and teanaway areas that have to deal with wolfs on a daily basis, I was also shocked at the number of pups that they located in the teanaway, this area cannot support these numbers of wolfs that are about to overwhelm a already fragile environment, they will be moving on to greener pastures.

[Idabooner]

Code 6328?


Isn't this the video that was supposed to show Idabooner's interview?

I guess they couldn't get me to say what they wanted to hear.  LOL

[GrainfedMuley]

Code 6328?
I seriously hope the WDFW changed the code to their HQ with all those weapons in there, 42 minute, lol

Isn't this the video that was supposed to show Idabooner's interview?

And really.........what was the point of conducting an interveiw of a poached ANYTHING in a evidence room filled with guns? The only relationship was the animal was shot. Becuase it was a BBC interview, in England they are not allowed to touch firearms, they wanted to make us westerners look like somebody before said. A bunch of Yosemity Sams.  When they first talked about the "wild west" they show a scene of the main street in Winthrop. Trying to make it look like this is still the 1860's gold rush.

[villageidiot]

I haven't watched the film yet but it appears they are calling anybody that kills a wolf without a tag a Poacher.  If you shoot a convicted rapist that is raping your daughter, is that what you call a murderer?  So any rancher that kills a wolf that kills his cows is a poacher? Do livestock owners have absolutely no rights left?  They either feed their livestock to the wolves or get convicted as a Poacher of endangered species?