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Offline Todd_ID

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Re: String Jump Video
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2012, 11:56:27 AM »
Here's a bit more insight on this.  Your video said "about 300 FPS" for your bow.  So I found a buddy's setup saved in my archery software program of a Bowtech Guardian that flings a 391 grain Maixma Hunter arrow at 293 FPS at 72# draw weight and compared the flight times and speeds versus if he turned it down to 50# draw weight and shot the same arrow 253 FPS.  The results:

Distance, Speed, Flight Time of 72# Draw Weight
0, 293, 0
20, 283, .208
30, 279, .315
40, 274, .423
50, 269, .533
60, 265, .646

Distance, Speed, Flight Time of 50# draw weight
0, 253, 0
20, 244, .241
30, 240, .365
40, 236, .490
50, 232, .618
60, 228, .748

My take is that at the ranges deer are normally taken (20-30 yards) the difference in time of flight is negligible and should not be used as a reason to shoot the lightest arrow possible and the highest draw weight imaginable in order to gain top speed.  Most archers would likely be much more effective as a hunter with a very heavy arrow and much lower draw weight; heavy arrows equate to quieter bows and more momentum; lower draw weight equates to steadier holds, less extraneous drawing motion and longer windows of opportunity while at full draw.

As for trying to decide "how low to aim" there are way too many variables to stick with one set of rules.  For instance, most deer are missed high from a treestand due to poor form rather than string jumping.  Combine poor form with a bit of string jump, and you can miss an entire animal by 36".  Our deer jump the string far less, as a general rule, than those in that video (likely from Texas where small, jumpy deer are famous).  Mule deer jump the string less than a whitetail in the same circumstances.  Elk rarely jump the string at all.  (Although I did have a big 6 point bull entirely duck an arrow at 20 yards once; I heard his his chest literally hit the dirt.)  I don't know anything about blacktails.

Experience is the key in deciding how and when to shoot at that particular animal in those particular circumstances.
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Re: String Jump Video
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2012, 02:21:13 PM »
just wanted to say two things on this 1 when you were shooting from 20 i could actually hear you nock your arrow. 2 did anyone else notice that the last arrow (in the video of the deer ducking under all the shots) the arrow actually ricochets off the deer.

You can see a tuft of hair fly up off the last deer. I dont think I could see the ricochete though.

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Re: String Jump Video
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2012, 02:28:00 PM »
Do you hear the sound from the bow going off before the arrow hits the target ....thats what makes them WHITETAIL jump the string ...... :dunno: :chuckle: My Mathews they only feel the arrow zipping threw them  :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: String Jump Video
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2012, 02:40:19 PM »
Do you hear the sound from the bow going off before the arrow hits the target ....thats what makes them WHITETAIL jump the string ...... :dunno: :chuckle: My Mathews they only feel the arrow zipping threw them  :chuckle: :chuckle:

Not until your arrow is flying 1125 feet per second.

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Re: String Jump Video
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2012, 06:13:48 PM »
I think Norse's wife was standing out of camera range and that distracted the arrow and the sound.    :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: String Jump Video
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2012, 07:38:00 PM »
i had a 6x6 bull elk,  duck the string at 40 yards, alot of people dont think an elk will do that.
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Re: String Jump Video
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2012, 08:13:28 PM »
Ducking the shot is always a good excuse for missing ;)

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Re: String Jump Video
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2012, 08:18:28 PM »
yeah I can not say I ever had an elk jump the string ....even at 50 yrds ...again its a Mathews topped off with a 100 gr wasp ... not much survives  :chuckle: :chuckle: :drool:

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Re: String Jump Video
« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2012, 08:30:53 PM »
Great video and thanks for the insight :tup:
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