Down goes illuminated nocks!

[boneaddict]

Typical of any agenda that someone wants, if they stand at the front porch and bang loud enough sooner or later someone is going to pass it.   The folks that want it think the folks that don't want it are stupid.  The folks that don't think its right or don't want it will put less energy into the fight and sooner or later will move on to something that is more important, such as saving the 2nd.   The folks that want it will still be jumping up and down screaming and pretty soon you will have it in law.    By the time you have your lighted fire sticks with gps beacons on them so you can find the arrow you shot at a deer 100 yards away, there probably wont be any deer left.   You might of/should have put as much effort into ending the decimation of the herds from wolves, tribal hunting, etc.

[D-Rock425]

 

[huntnphool]

Typical of any agenda that someone wants, if they stand at the front porch and bang loud enough sooner or later someone is going to pass it.   The folks that want it think the folks that don't want it are stupid.  The folks that don't think its right or don't want it will put less energy into the fight and sooner or later will move on to something that is more important, such as saving the 2nd.   The folks that want it will still be jumping up and down screaming and pretty soon you will have it in law.    By the time you have your lighted fire sticks with gps beacons on them so you can find the arrow you shot at a deer 100 yards away, there probably wont be any deer left.   You might of/should have put as much effort into ending the decimation of the herds from wolves, tribal hunting, etc.

i don't think the opposition are stupid and I can assure you my voice is being heard on the wolf and tribal hunting issues as well!!!

[spur_ride]

Well put bone.

[Chase 1]

Here's the bottom line on this issue. If you want the Commission to vote yes for this change, then you have two options to let your voice be heard. You can write a letter expressing your support for the change (there are some great examples in previous posts) and email or send it to the addresses below…

Written comments may be emailed to wildthing@dfw.wa.gov or mailed to: Wildlife Program Commission Public Comments, 600 Capitol Way N., Olympia, WA 98501.
 
But do it now because the deadline is Feb.15th.

OR…

You can show up at one of the Commission meetings that will take place before the vote in April (no testimony will be heard at the meeting in April).

The next meeting is in Olympia at the end of this week. Your opportunity to express your support of this change will be on Friday Feb 8th at 8:45 …or… Saturday Feb 9th at 8:30. Show up a little early, sign in, and tell the Commission in person that you support a yes vote on this proposal. You will have 3 minutes and you can use as little or much of it as you wish.

The last chance to speak to the Commission (and a lot closer to some of you) is the March meeting that will be held in Moses Lake on March 1-2. The agenda is not yet set so I will update the time when it is or you can check this link.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/commission/meetings.html

THIS IS NOT A DONE DEAL. It could still go either way. Last year the Commission voted 4-3 in favor of approving the change, but a change requires 5 votes. Two Commissioners were not at the last vote and will swing this one way or the other.

And make no mistake; a handful of very vocal opponents will do what they can to keep this from happening.  If history is any indicator, they will attend the meeting and let their opposition be heard loud and clear. They will present themselves as the voices of the archery community, and despite all the information to the contrary, represent that this change is opposed by archers.

Notice a relative lack of posts from those opposing this change?

The voice of the majority cannot be heard if it is not spoken!  So speak up and be heard. If you want to see that this rule makes it to the final draft of the regs, you need to drop a letter to the Commission telling them so by Feb.15th or better yet show up at the meeting to tell them in person. 

And if you go on Friday you will be done in plenty of time to head over to the 2nd Amendment rally taking place that day. Info on the link below.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,117549.msg1552156/topicseen.html#new

[Chase 1]

Typical of any agenda that someone wants, if they stand at the front porch and bang loud enough sooner or later someone is going to pass it.   The folks that want it think the folks that don't want it are stupid.  The folks that don't think its right or don't want it will put less energy into the fight and sooner or later will move on to something that is more important, such as saving the 2nd.   The folks that want it will still be jumping up and down screaming and pretty soon you will have it in law.    By the time you have your lighted fire sticks with gps beacons on them so you can find the arrow you shot at a deer 100 yards away, there probably wont be any deer left.   You might of/should have put as much effort into ending the decimation of the herds from wolves, tribal hunting, etc.

Sorry but I couldn't disagree more with your summation of this debate/discussion, especially that I feel that those who don't want the change are stupid. That is absolutely not the case! Most of those on both sides of this debate are fellow archers and sportsman and on 95% of the issues, we have the same agenda! This is a small issue that we disagree on. 

And the idea that folks can't put out effort in many directions at once just leaves me scratching my head. Sportmans intrest are best served if that is what we all do. 

[boneaddict]

Better stand at the front door and bang a little louder then, because I still can't hear you.

I do understand the analogy of having my hand in more than one cookie jar.

[turkeyfeather]

Typical of any agenda that someone wants, if they stand at the front porch and bang loud enough sooner or later someone is going to pass it.   The folks that want it think the folks that don't want it are stupid.  The folks that don't think its right or don't want it will put less energy into the fight and sooner or later will move on to something that is more important, such as saving the 2nd.   The folks that want it will still be jumping up and down screaming and pretty soon you will have it in law.    By the time you have your lighted fire sticks with gps beacons on them so you can find the arrow you shot at a deer 100 yards away, there probably wont be any deer left.   You might of/should have put as much effort into ending the decimation of the herds from wolves, tribal hunting, etc.

I don't think you could be more wrong.

[boneaddict]

I don't think you could be more wrong

I'm sure I'll prove that wrong someday.

[jackelope]

Typical of any agenda that someone wants, if they stand at the front porch and bang loud enough sooner or later someone is going to pass it.   The folks that want it think the folks that don't want it are stupid.  The folks that don't think its right or don't want it will put less energy into the fight and sooner or later will move on to something that is more important, such as saving the 2nd.   The folks that want it will still be jumping up and down screaming and pretty soon you will have it in law.    By the time you have your lighted fire sticks with gps beacons on them so you can find the arrow you shot at a deer 100 yards away, there probably wont be any deer left.   You might of/should have put as much effort into ending the decimation of the herds from wolves, tribal hunting, etc.

Sorry but I couldn't disagree more with your summation of this debate/discussion, especially that I feel that those who don't want the change are stupid. That is absolutely not the case! Most of those on both sides of this debate are fellow archers and sportsman and on 95% of the issues, we have the same agenda! This is a small issue that we disagree on. 

And the idea that folks can't put out effort in many directions at once just leaves me scratching my head. Sportmans intrest are best served if that is what we all do.

My experience as a fairly new to the sport archer but a guy that's been on this forum way way way more than enough says that when you get right down to it..really pick it apart... there's a lot more dividing archers on both sides of the equipment aisle than the lighted nock debate. I've seen bow hunters arguing on here about everything from lighted nocks to training wheels to acceptable shooting distances to flashlights duct taped to bows(inside joke).

[boneaddict]

Pretty soon we'll sound like those "Duck hunters."   (another inside joke)

[92xj]

Only people that use electronic decoys know how to kill lots and lots of ducks.

[jackelope]

Pretty soon we'll sound like those "Duck hunters."   (another inside joke)

We have before. Well, not WE, but its been done before.

[h20hunter]

I thought duck taped lights on bows were okay as long as you had a letter saying that it was okay for you. However...if you promise to and then fail to provide such letter, quit posting, and go away...then I guess we will just never know.

[turkeyfeather]

I don't think you could be more wrong

I'm sure I'll prove that wrong someday.

I probably should have been clearer in what I was referring to. First off I and most other are perfectly capable of being behind and following more than one controversial issue at a time. I also don't think anyone who is in favor of lighted knocks wants them so they can shoot a deer at 100 yards. Anyone who is being honest knows and will say that a knock does not help you make a longer shot. And to even suggest that that is the reason some would want them is ludicrous. That implies that we are all unethical hunters, and that I take offense to. I do agree with you that they will probably get passed because those that oppose them will give up. I have yet to have anyone give me a legitimate reason to not allow them if one chooses.