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Re: Are you for or against the Discover Pass?
« Reply #105 on: January 06, 2013, 09:15:42 AM »
Won't ever buy it, I love to hear that they are not collecting as much as they wanted. It should be free for me to park at a gate or trailhead and walk on public land. I pay enough in hunting fee's already, almost a hundred dollars to get my elk, deer, bear, cougar combo and that's just a start.
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Re: Are you for or against the Discover Pass?
« Reply #106 on: January 06, 2013, 09:34:48 AM »
I think making people pay to use public land is terrible.

Get use to it. With the impending federal budget cuts don't be surprised to see more federal lands requiring some type of parking/access pass.

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Re: Are you for or against the Discover Pass?
« Reply #107 on: January 06, 2013, 09:40:14 AM »
I think making people pay to use public land is terrible.

Get use to it. With the impending federal budget cuts don't be surprised to see more federal lands requiring some type of parking/access pass.
I don't think getting use to it is the right attitude, so what's next, if they do decide to take other freedoms away (walking in our forest for free)like guns do we just get use to it? Those mountains are public land and they have already been paid for by a mulitude of taxes and fees, gov and state need to manage their money a little bit better in my opinion.
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Re: Are you for or against the Discover Pass?
« Reply #108 on: January 06, 2013, 09:43:47 AM »
I think making people pay to use public land is terrible.

Get use to it. With the impending federal budget cuts don't be surprised to see more federal lands requiring some type of parking/access pass.
I don't think getting use to it is the right attitude, so what's next, if they do decide to take other freedoms away (walking in our forest for free)like guns do we just get use to it? Those mountains are public land and they have already been paid for by a mulitude of taxes and fees, gov and state need to manage their money a little bit better in my opinion.

I'm just saying don't be surprised when the federal agencies start charging for use/access.

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Re: Are you for or against the Discover Pass?
« Reply #109 on: January 06, 2013, 09:51:18 AM »
I just get pissed at all this, I know what your saying. It's too bad about all these fee's, heck if you think about it, there are all kinds of fee's out there they can come up with.
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Re: Are you for or against the Discover Pass?
« Reply #110 on: January 06, 2013, 09:54:17 AM »
Against, cause they will always come up with another fee for something else, just like with fishing.

You want to fish fresh water? Pay up. Oh, you want to fish this area of fresh water? Pay up some more. Oh you want this too... and so it goes.

Washington hunting license $xx. What can you hunt with it? Deer, no. Elk, no. Cougar, no. Turkey, no. Need tags if you actually want to hunt with your hunting license. Hunting license by itself is pretty much useless.  You have a hunting license and appropriate tag and want to hunt in unit ______? Too bad! Now you need an access pass!

I like how Alabama does their hunting license system (first year hunting here). Spent $25.05 on it. What can I hunt with it? Deer, yes! And not just one, but three! Turkey, yes! Not just one, but five! Hogs, yes! As many as you want!

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Re: Are you for or against the Discover Pass?
« Reply #111 on: January 06, 2013, 09:54:53 AM »
I get 3/4 inch group's in the 0.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: >:(
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Are you for or against the Discover Pass?
« Reply #112 on: January 06, 2013, 09:59:10 AM »
I think making people pay to use public land is terrible.

Get use to it. With the impending federal budget cuts don't be surprised to see more federal lands requiring some type of parking/access pass.
I don't think getting use to it is the right attitude, so what's next, if they do decide to take other freedoms away (walking in our forest for free)like guns do we just get use to it? Those mountains are public land and they have already been paid for by a mulitude of taxes and fees, gov and state need to manage their money a little bit better in my opinion.

I'm just saying don't be surprised when the federal agencies start charging for use/access.

They already are.

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Re: Are you for or against the Discover Pass?
« Reply #113 on: January 06, 2013, 10:03:35 AM »
I think making people pay to use public land is terrible.

Get use to it. With the impending federal budget cuts don't be surprised to see more federal lands requiring some type of parking/access pass.
I don't think getting use to it is the right attitude, so what's next, if they do decide to take other freedoms away (walking in our forest for free)like guns do we just get use to it? Those mountains are public land and they have already been paid for by a mulitude of taxes and fees, gov and state need to manage their money a little bit better in my opinion.

I'm just saying don't be surprised when the federal agencies start charging for use/access.

They already are.

Only in certain areas. The USFS it's mainly the USFS NW Forest Pass at trailheads. BLM as far as I know only has one day use area requiring a fee/pass and that is the Yakima River Canyon. I don't believe any of the USFWS lands on the eastside where you can hunt/fish require a pass

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Re: Are you for or against the Discover Pass?
« Reply #114 on: January 06, 2013, 10:04:57 AM »
I think making people pay to use public land is terrible.

Get use to it. With the impending federal budget cuts don't be surprised to see more federal lands requiring some type of parking/access pass.

Yeah, and if Gagoire gets in a management position, expect it to be even worse.  After all, she did such a good job at t he state level.   :bash:

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Re: Are you for or against the Discover Pass?
« Reply #115 on: January 06, 2013, 10:06:55 AM »
Against, cause they will always come up with another fee for something else, just like with fishing.

You want to fish fresh water? Pay up. Oh, you want to fish this area of fresh water? Pay up some more. Oh you want this too... and so it goes.

Washington hunting license $xx. What can you hunt with it? Deer, no. Elk, no. Cougar, no. Turkey, no. Need tags if you actually want to hunt with your hunting license. Hunting license by itself is pretty much useless.  You have a hunting license and appropriate tag and want to hunt in unit ______? Too bad! Now you need an access pass!

I like how Alabama does their hunting license system (first year hunting here). Spent $25.05 on it. What can I hunt with it? Deer, yes! And not just one, but three! Turkey, yes! Not just one, but five! Hogs, yes! As many as you want!

The economy is different in the south then here. Is that the reason things are more expensive here regarding hunting/fishing? Maybe yes, maybe no.

In terms of needing more licenses/permits. There are some other states that are worse. I know of states that if you want to fish a certain river system you need a permit. Imagine needing a puget sound river permit, a coastal washington river permit, columbia river permit, etc. All we have here is the columbia river salmon/steelhead endorsement.

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Re: Are you for or against the Discover Pass?
« Reply #116 on: January 06, 2013, 10:16:33 AM »
Against, cause they will always come up with another fee for something else, just like with fishing.

You want to fish fresh water? Pay up. Oh, you want to fish this area of fresh water? Pay up some more. Oh you want this too... and so it goes.

Washington hunting license $xx. What can you hunt with it? Deer, no. Elk, no. Cougar, no. Turkey, no. Need tags if you actually want to hunt with your hunting license. Hunting license by itself is pretty much useless.  You have a hunting license and appropriate tag and want to hunt in unit ______? Too bad! Now you need an access pass!

I like how Alabama does their hunting license system (first year hunting here). Spent $25.05 on it. What can I hunt with it? Deer, yes! And not just one, but three! Turkey, yes! Not just one, but five! Hogs, yes! As many as you want!

The economy is different in the south then here. Is that the reason things are more expensive here regarding hunting/fishing? Maybe yes, maybe no.

In terms of needing more licenses/permits. There are some other states that are worse. I know of states that if you want to fish a certain river system you need a permit. Imagine needing a puget sound river permit, a coastal washington river permit, columbia river permit, etc. All we have here is the columbia river salmon/steelhead endorsement.

Not quite accurate there BigT, we also need freshwater and saltwater endorsements and in the saltwater you only get to fish for a couple of things.

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Re: Are you for or against the Discover Pass?
« Reply #117 on: January 06, 2013, 10:19:13 AM »
Against, cause they will always come up with another fee for something else, just like with fishing.

You want to fish fresh water? Pay up. Oh, you want to fish this area of fresh water? Pay up some more. Oh you want this too... and so it goes.

Washington hunting license $xx. What can you hunt with it? Deer, no. Elk, no. Cougar, no. Turkey, no. Need tags if you actually want to hunt with your hunting license. Hunting license by itself is pretty much useless.  You have a hunting license and appropriate tag and want to hunt in unit ______? Too bad! Now you need an access pass!

I like how Alabama does their hunting license system (first year hunting here). Spent $25.05 on it. What can I hunt with it? Deer, yes! And not just one, but three! Turkey, yes! Not just one, but five! Hogs, yes! As many as you want!

The economy is different in the south then here. Is that the reason things are more expensive here regarding hunting/fishing? Maybe yes, maybe no.

In terms of needing more licenses/permits. There are some other states that are worse. I know of states that if you want to fish a certain river system you need a permit. Imagine needing a puget sound river permit, a coastal washington river permit, columbia river permit, etc. All we have here is the columbia river salmon/steelhead endorsement.

Not quite accurate there BigT, we also need freshwater and saltwater endorsements and in the saltwater you only get to fish for a couple of things.

You don't need a freshwater or saltwater endorsement. You either get a fresh license, a salt license, or a combo. An endorsement is something in addition to a license. For example you just can't go fishing with only having a columbia river salmon/steelhead endorsement, you need that in addition to a license.

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Re: Are you for or against the Discover Pass?
« Reply #118 on: January 06, 2013, 10:21:41 AM »
But to be fare, it wasn't that long ago that all you needed was a "fishing license".
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Re: Are you for or against the Discover Pass?
« Reply #119 on: January 06, 2013, 10:37:31 AM »
Against, cause they will always come up with another fee for something else, just like with fishing.

You want to fish fresh water? Pay up. Oh, you want to fish this area of fresh water? Pay up some more. Oh you want this too... and so it goes.

Washington hunting license $xx. What can you hunt with it? Deer, no. Elk, no. Cougar, no. Turkey, no. Need tags if you actually want to hunt with your hunting license. Hunting license by itself is pretty much useless.  You have a hunting license and appropriate tag and want to hunt in unit ______? Too bad! Now you need an access pass!

I like how Alabama does their hunting license system (first year hunting here). Spent $25.05 on it. What can I hunt with it? Deer, yes! And not just one, but three! Turkey, yes! Not just one, but five! Hogs, yes! As many as you want!

The economy is different in the south then here. Is that the reason things are more expensive here regarding hunting/fishing? Maybe yes, maybe no.

In terms of needing more licenses/permits. There are some other states that are worse. I know of states that if you want to fish a certain river system you need a permit. Imagine needing a puget sound river permit, a coastal washington river permit, columbia river permit, etc. All we have here is the columbia river salmon/steelhead endorsement.

Not quite accurate there BigT, we also need freshwater and saltwater endorsements and in the saltwater you only get to fish for a couple of things.

You don't need a freshwater or saltwater endorsement. You either get a fresh license, a salt license, or a combo. An endorsement is something in addition to a license. For example you just can't go fishing with only having a columbia river salmon/steelhead endorsement, you need that in addition to a license.

How disingenuous, it still costs $$ whatever you call it.  But that is what most government is about, sucking more money out of citizens and trying to take more control.  BigT, I appreciate your helpfulness on some things here, but you still represent the government that wants to take more and provide/allow less.

Sorry to the OP for getting off subject.

 


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