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Deer Hunting / Re: Crazy looking Deer
« Last post by NOCK NOCK on Today at 07:35:14 PM »
My guess is its just a Whitey, quite a few showing up in your area, and central WA.
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Fishing / Re: Smelt ?
« Last post by Tbar on Today at 07:33:45 PM »
I fished them a lot when I was young.  We used to dipnet for them just upstream of the marine drive bridge.  That is assuming you are talking hooligans.  Smelt, eulachon and hooligans are all the same fish.  It's great to hear the run has returned to harvestable numbers but I'm little help to the current fishery. Best of luck if you do try, I literally just sent my nets to the aluminum recycling yard.
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Guns and Ammo / 6x51R
« Last post by JDHasty on Today at 07:22:48 PM »
It’s rimmed 243 Winchester.  Three fire formed cases and three dummy rounds made using culls w/87 grain V-max bullets.  The cases are made from 444 Marlin parent cases from Starlinebrass.
I have been posting on my CPA Stevens project here.
https://www.rimfirecentral.com/threads/cpa-stevens.1339033/

There is more on how I formed the cases posted in the link under the thread here on my C.C. Johnson 219 Donaldson Wasp 44-1/2 Stevens. 
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Deer Hunting / Re: "Any Deer" GMU's - Proof of Sex?
« Last post by 10thmountainarcher on Today at 07:16:08 PM »
It looks like you are in Idaho, so that might be why there is some confusion.

In Washington, you can bring the head out to show antlered/antlerless OR you can bring attached proof of sex. It's right in the regs.

But if you are hunting in an area with an antler restriction, then you must bring the head out. And that would apply to units that are "Any Buck" or "Any Bull" (and again, Washington does have these hunts, they aren't described as "Antlered" unless you break it down another step in the definitions of "Any Buck."

If you shot a doe with 3 pts in an any deer unit you could bring just the udder out on the meat and be legal. If you shot it in an antlerless unit, you would be in violation of laws. If you shot it in "Any Buck" unit, you are required to bring the head or skull cap out but would not be required to have other proof of sex attached.

Essentially: If you are in a unit where you can only shoot an antlered animal or an animal with X amount of points, you must bring out the antlers attached to the head or skull cap.
 
If it's an antlerless tag or an any animal tag, then attached proof of sex will do.

It all seems very logical to me. The only part that is not super logical is the need for proof of sex in an any deer GMU (which is what the original question pertains to). But it still makes more sense to me to have it required there than to have a bunch of miscellaneous exceptions that would make the rules that much harder to remember. A little easier to just know in Washington you need to have some kind of proof of sex on the animal.


Idaho's regs are probably a little less logical for me when it comes to this stuff.

Here are the Washington regs pertaining to it:

3. Evidence of Animal's Sex (WAC 220-413-090):
It is illegal to possess or transport big game animals unless evidence of the animal's sex is left naturally attached to the carcass
until the carcass is processed or stored for consumption. Evidence
of sex means:
• Male - head with antlers or horns attached or penis or testes any
of which must be naturally attached to at least one quarter of the
carcass or to the largest portion of meat.
• Female - the head or udder must be naturally attached to at least
one quarter of the carcass or to the largest portion of meat.

Big game taken in antler or horn restriction areas: The head or skull
plate, with both horns or both antlers naturally attached, must accompany the carcass while in transit or in possession.

This is an interesting question.  I have some logic questions now on this.

1) Are you required to bring out the head and/or antlers?  I don't see anywhere that this is actually required.
2) Hunts are not buck or doe hunts, they're antlered and antlerless.  What does the sex of the animal have to do with that, especially in this modern age.  We've seen many antlered does show up on these threads.
3) As far as I can see, you could legally shoot an antlered 3 point doe, leave the antlers, and show back up to camp with an udder on the largest piece of meant and violated ZERO laws.
4) Evidence of sex proves nothing about adhering with the regulation.  In any deer/elk zones, sex shows nothing.  In antlered only areas it shows nothing... even a spike with sub-legal antlers would have the right gender, and you've still broken the law in that case.  This is an outdated rule that makes zero logical sense.

I believe this one would be good for Bigtex to chime in on. If you shoot a buck and quarter him up to pack out, the way I read it is the proof of sex has to be attached to the carcass. I may be mistaken, but the head is not considered part of the carcass, so leaving the antlers attached to the head if separated from the carcass may not suffice. Male - head with antlers or horns attached or penis or testes any
of which must be naturally attached to at least one quarter of the
carcass or to the largest portion of meat
. I read this as saying any of those examples given must remain attached to a quarter and a head with antlers by itself doesn’t satisfy the requirements. The “or” in the sentence and then the “any of which” means it’s not only referring to the penis or testes, it’s saying one of those three has to remain attached to be in compliance.

I’ve never fully grasped the point of this, as I doubt a poacher will just be carrying around a fresh head with antlers to poach does and carry them out.
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Guns and Ammo / Re: Shotgun Sight help
« Last post by EnglishSetter on Today at 07:03:06 PM »
Wing shooting I wouldn't know if my sight was gone. 
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Fishing / Re: Smelt ?
« Last post by bak2huntn on Today at 06:15:14 PM »
Live on the Nooksack the last twenty years and have never heard of a smelt run on it,used to ice fish for them in South Dakota bot one at a time sucks.They taste great and if true I'm down to dip a net. Great bait also.Some one who has done this please chime in.Maybe when i get out from under the house replacing flood damage i can check it out and respond! Its not April is it ?
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Elk Hunting / Re: Found after 2 days, meat worth anything?
« Last post by Pete112288 on Today at 05:48:36 PM »
Half tempted to donate or give this away. But it will take its place on the wall next to a couple other goofy hoof rot bulls as a lesson/story for my son and others that ask.
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Scopes and Optics / Re: MOA or MRAD, & Why?
« Last post by JakeLand on Today at 05:31:46 PM »
Look into the leupold CDS scopes once they’re set and your turret is made it’s easy simple and accurate
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