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Deer Hunting / Re: Idaho Non-res hunt draw
« Last post by pd on Today at 06:26:17 PM »
Myself and about 30 other people where I work would shut down the offices for a few minutes and get 10 computers per person going  :chuckle:

Wow, what a joke for everyone else who wasn't gaming the system. Maybe the 'normal Joe' NRs will get a fair shot at a tag for once.  I know of locals who piled on the NR tags here every year for out-of-state friends as well, time to play fair.

This was basiscally the good and bad of the old system.  If you wanted it hard enough you could drive/fly to Idaho, find a license vendor (better if it was someone obscure like a fishing shop) and then buy your tag in person, or have a friend buy one for you and 10 other people at once in the same way.  The people who weren't doing that had 4 browsers open on 4 computers, and then took the highest number in the queue.  Anyone who was just logging in on one device and hoping for the best hardly had a prayer.  Our group always got tags... (I'm local, but my friends).  It was BS, now its more fair, but now it costs a lot more to try also.  I think we may be surprised this year to see some units not sell out in the first pass.  If everyone puts the most popular ones down, and nobody puts some "bad backup options" then we may see remaining tags on those.  For people far out of state, they might not even know what the less desiriable units are.  That'll change after this first pass when everyone gets to see draw data.

As someone mentioned on here, we think there's this mass of extra people who wanted tags but didn't get them.  Keep in mind there are 28,000 deer and elk tags combined (sure some are outfitter, etc), but there's a LOT of NR tags that everyone is going for at the same time.  That queue would get up in the 40-60k realm, but for a large contingency, our group included, we might have had 50 slots for 5 guys.  It could have been that there were only 10k unique people in the online queue and then maybe 1k in person?  All we really know is at the end most of the tags went to someone who was willing to pay for a chance in perhaps their last choice (or previously not-considered unit).  I just have to wonder how many people thought "{random idaho zone with no elk}, what the heck, why not?" when they finally got in, who now might not put it in their 5 choice list at all. 

Anyway, good luck to everyone.  Hope this is a more streamlined approach and most folks get a tag they want.

This is a really good summary of the system.Thanks for the insightful comments.
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Short seasons and over crowded public lands.
Injured deer is pretty common.

I was watching a nice buck walk through my backyard and then as he was leaving saw an arrow sticking out of his rear end. Both a buddy and myself have shot deer that turned out to have been hit by vehicles......one with a messed up front shoulder (Kelly Hill, Kettle Falls) and one with a messed up rear hip (Port Angeles).
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Deer Hunting / Re: Idaho Non-res hunt draw
« Last post by addicted1 on Today at 06:22:37 PM »
Myself and about 30 other people where I work would shut down the offices for a few minutes and get 10 computers per person going  :chuckle:

Wow, what a joke for everyone else who wasn't gaming the system. Maybe the 'normal Joe' NRs will get a fair shot at a tag for once.  I know of locals who piled on the NR tags here every year for out-of-state friends as well, time to play fair.

If you weren’t doing that then you have no one to blame but yourself. That was system and it worked pretty well for me.
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I would look at a Rydon bike.  Almost the same as bakou.  Lower price

Whoa, those are some great bikes for that price. There is nothing that really separates quietkat and Bakcou from the these except maybe the frame. The motors, gear sets, tires, batteries are all basically the same. That hardtail ultra with the 25ah battery is a great buy at $2,699
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I would look at a Rydon bike.  Almost the same as bakou.  Lower price
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Out Of State Hunting / Re: Montana Cutting Deer Licenses
« Last post by lewy on Today at 05:14:09 PM »
I’ve wondered why they allow so many mule deer does to be killed for years.
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Deer Hunting / Re: more mass?, not sure I care
« Last post by freezerfull on Today at 04:26:15 PM »
He’s thinking what’s this guy up to who stopped.

I appreciate you always sharing your awesome photos here!
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Deer Hunting / Re: more mass?, not sure I care
« Last post by boneaddict on Today at 03:45:43 PM »
From another thread “Perfect evening hunt”

This was the buck being described.



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I was back in the same area early the next morning, about a mile away, driving down the road and out of the corner of my eye spotted a buck bedded.  I thought it was this guy.   I came to a halt which of course stood him up and he very nonchalantly headed for cover.   It was a different buck (different eyeguards) and  bigger.   I was staring straight at the sun peaking out and he was in the shade.  Terrible photos.   I'll get him on here sometime soon.
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Deer Hunting / Re: Perfect evening hunt
« Last post by boneaddict on Today at 03:41:49 PM »
Thank you!
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Quietkat is solid. Still ultimately a Chinese bike, but at least an american based company. If you have a service center a reasonable distance away, it would be a no-brainer.

Their top end models will have all the breaking power you'll need. Size large will be perfect for you.

If it doesn't come with them, get tire protectors, spare battery, mud flaps, headlight...
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