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I have read the regs numerous times.. during modern you absolutely can use a xbow. In any unit. As far as xbows during archery, I'm good with it for disabled people who really are disabled. The toughest part of bow hunting to me is learning when and how to draw. . Then holding for minutes at a time waiting on the shot. The x bow takes that out of the picture.
Stupid law anyways. All disabled hunters should be allowed to use one.
The "state" returned my crossbow permit application saying the Doctor's statement that, post surgery, I am and will always be physically unable to safely draw or hold a bow was insufficient to warrant a permit. I will continue to be part of archery elk camp. Even if it means being the camp Bee Otch. Ya'll come in and sit a spell, hear? Tell me your lies and I'll tell you mine.
Quote from: rover758 on May 06, 2014, 08:30:41 AM The "state" returned my crossbow permit application saying the Doctor's statement that, post surgery, I am and will always be physically unable to safely draw or hold a bow was insufficient to warrant a permit. I will continue to be part of archery elk camp. Even if it means being the camp Bee Otch. Ya'll come in and sit a spell, hear? Tell me your lies and I'll tell you mine. sorry to hear about your problems. I would try to have a one on one talk with the person approving the permit. Thank you for your serviceI also am a disabled Vet. In my case Agent Orange has taken all but 10% of my sight in my left eye (right eye is blind), and other service related problems have given me Congestive Heart Failure, COPD, and Severe Knee problems.I hunt. Since I can't drive any more I wanted to hunt with my middle son during archery season. So I wanted to use a bow. Instability and vision problems and other issues make it so I can pull a bow at 40# for a few seconds. Using the sights was another issue. Applied for the crossbow permit.Doc answered in about 5 lines, and the state refused the permit because he didn't list any specific tests that proved I couldn't use a vertical bow.In talking to the Disability Coordinator it was stated that the reason they needed specific strength/Coordination tests was because they get audited. I suspect after reading this thread that I now know who does the auditing.I find myself wondering how using a crossbow changes the physics of arrow flight? Is there some magic switch that makes it do more than a vertical bow?When we, as hunters spend our time fighting among ourselves for imagined slights and the changing of "traditional" hunting systems it seems to me as if we might as well just let the anti-hunters have their way. We sure aren't going to be able to come together when we need to.
Quote from: rover758 on May 06, 2014, 08:30:41 AM The "state" returned my crossbow permit application saying the Doctor's statement that, post surgery, I am and will always be physically unable to safely draw or hold a bow was insufficient to warrant a permit. I will continue to be part of archery elk camp. Even if it means being the camp Bee Otch. Ya'll come in and sit a spell, hear? Tell me your lies and I'll tell you mine. I also am a disabled Vet. In my case Agent Orange has taken all but 10% of my sight in my left eye (right eye is blind), and other service related problems have given me Congestive Heart Failure, COPD, and Severe Knee problems.I hunt. Since I can't drive any more I wanted to hunt with my middle son during archery season. So I wanted to use a bow. Instability and vision problems and other issues make it so I can pull a bow at 40# for a few seconds. Using the sights was another issue. Applied for the crossbow permit.Doc answered in about 5 lines, and the state refused the permit because he didn't list any specific tests that proved I couldn't use a vertical bow.In talking to the Disability Coordinator it was stated that the reason they needed specific strength/Coordination tests was because they get audited. I suspect after reading this thread that I now know who does the auditing.I find myself wondering how using a crossbow changes the physics of arrow flight? Is there some magic switch that makes it do more than a vertical bow?When we, as hunters spend our time fighting among ourselves for imagined slights and the changing of "traditional" hunting systems it seems to me as if we might as well just let the anti-hunters have their way. We sure aren't going to be able to come together when we need to.
I have to chime in on this as I hunt with a crossbow. Giving our wounded warriors access to use a crossbow is a great idea, but where do you draw the line on what wounded is, is it missing an arm/hand? If it isn't taken to the extreme of missing an extremity how do you prove the "wounded"? I know many of service members that play the disability system in both the Army side and the VA side. Now as far as your everyday person using a crossbow, why not? I had a C-spine surgery and fusion that didn't work out, that along with a shoulder injury allows me to pull a 40lb draw bow back but not hold it for more than 3-5 seconds before my shoulder gives out sending the arrow who knows where, and sending the bow back towards my face (yes it happened during a hunt). So why shouldn't I be allowed to use a crossbow to continue my hunting experience?I feel like people see the "disabled hunter" using the crossbow and are upset because they feel we have a "greater advantage" over the traditional archery user by adding distance or accuracy. Hunt the method you enjoy, or the method that you can physically handle, enjoy your hunt and let others enjoy theirs whether you agree with the method or not. the advantage is not having to worry about when to draw or holding at full draw for minutes waiting on your shot. I am fine with it during any season aside from archery season. It gives people a distinct advantage.