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They'll only have a dress code and charge you $4000 for the pleasure to hunt your land.

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Re: Hunting like you're on Downton Abby in Idaho...on public land
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2016, 11:29:24 AM »
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States need to reconsider this exclusive or primary goal of maximizing revenue generation for endowment lands - public access to public lands is a significant public interest - just as funding public schools is a public interest.  Horrible idea that will only continue escalation of making hunting exclusive to the wealthy.
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Re: Hunting like you're on Downton Abby in Idaho...on public land
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2016, 11:58:21 AM »
 :yeah: I hope they don't go through with such a proposal . I'll tell ya Harold this has put a cube in my tea and ruffled my trousers a tad.
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Re: Hunting like you're on Downton Abby in Idaho...on public land
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2016, 12:13:41 PM »
I live on the boarder and do just about everything except buy groceries in Idaho.....if you dressed like that in Idaho I can safely say your in for a whoppin. 

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Re: Hunting like you're on Downton Abby in Idaho...on public land
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2016, 12:56:23 PM »
North American Game Management Model anyone?  :bash:
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Re: Hunting like you're on Downton Abby in Idaho...on public land
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2016, 01:59:29 PM »
Oh look, someone to carry my shotgun,  where do I sign up ?  :rolleyes:
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Re: Hunting like you're on Downton Abby in Idaho...on public land
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2016, 11:13:23 AM »
When I went bird hunting with my brother in England and Scotland was required to wear a jacket while on the estate. The guide about fainted when I asked if anyone shoots a semi-auto in their hunting estate :chuckle:

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Re: Hunting like you're on Downton Abby in Idaho...on public land
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2016, 11:52:13 AM »
I would have no problem with people doing this on private land. But, allowing this as restricted hunting on public land is not a very good idea.
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Re: Hunting like you're on Downton Abby in Idaho...on public land
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2016, 12:36:02 PM »
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.....if you dressed like that in Idaho I can safely say your in for a whoppin.


 :yeah: Major arse whoopin! 



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Re: Hunting like you're on Downton Abby in Idaho...on public land
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2016, 12:56:03 PM »
I would have no problem with people doing this on private land. But, allowing this as restricted hunting on public land is not a very good idea.


Indeed, with money they will charging you would think they could purchase a suitable ranch property.
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Re: Hunting like you're on Downton Abby in Idaho...on public land
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2016, 01:14:16 PM »
Wasn't their a Vintagers get together in Oregon much like this, I believe they held it on one of the hunting preserves.
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Re: Hunting like you're on Downton Abby in Idaho...on public land
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2016, 02:05:19 PM »
I wouldn't worry too much, I don't see this happening. I have a large lease on Idaho Endowment Lands for outfitting. It has been made abundantly clear to me by the Idaho Dept Of Lands that the public cannot be discouraged or prevented from using state lands. IMO the public would never stand for a club to have an exclusive lease preventing public use. Send a letter, it is always good for agencies to hear from the public.  :tup:
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Re: Hunting like you're on Downton Abby in Idaho...on public land
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2016, 03:36:23 PM »
Did anyone read the article. Because this is noteworthy if only due to the intent of the use of the public land, it was not granted for the public access interest but for the monetary interest.

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The state of Idaho has a type of public land known as “endowment lands.” These state-owned and managed properties, for the most part, are lands that were donated by the federal government in the late 1800s for the purpose of providing financial support for the state’s rural, public schools. As is the case in many Western states, these “school sections” generate income in a number of ways, with grazing, timber, and mineral leases being most popular. In Idaho, the Department of Lands is required by statute to maximize income generation on these lands.

It’s the revenue-generation requirement that is noteworthy. In 2014, Blixt and Co. proposed a new source of revenue to the state, asking for an exclusive lease on a 580-acre piece of endowment land.

considering the state of Idahos schools money generation would be a huge motivator backed by statute

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Re: Hunting like you're on Downton Abby in Idaho...on public land
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2016, 03:48:15 PM »
Yes, the monetary value outlined by the law has been discussed.
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Re: Hunting like you're on Downton Abby in Idaho...on public land
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2016, 03:52:55 PM »
Did anyone read the article. Because this is noteworthy if only due to the intent of the use of the public land, it was not granted for the public access interest but for the monetary interest.

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The state of Idaho has a type of public land known as “endowment lands.” These state-owned and managed properties, for the most part, are lands that were donated by the federal government in the late 1800s for the purpose of providing financial support for the state’s rural, public schools. As is the case in many Western states, these “school sections” generate income in a number of ways, with grazing, timber, and mineral leases being most popular. In Idaho, the Department of Lands is required by statute to maximize income generation on these lands.

It’s the revenue-generation requirement that is noteworthy. In 2014, Blixt and Co. proposed a new source of revenue to the state, asking for an exclusive lease on a 580-acre piece of endowment land.

considering the state of Idahos schools money generation would be a huge motivator backed by statute
Equivalent to WA DNR lands. $ is number 1, recreation/access is #.....?

 


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