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Re: Commercial Fishing
« Reply #885 on: August 08, 2024, 09:34:11 PM »
The Northwestern at anchor in Cordova during last Monday's seine opener.  The white boat on the right. 

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Re: Commercial Fishing
« Reply #886 on: October 05, 2024, 03:27:30 PM »
Quick update on the fishing season -

Chums came in like a lion,  out like a lamb.  There were some grinders that worked them until the bitter end, with scores in the 100 fish range by the end of August.  That might just cover fuel...

Most guys switched to other fisheries.  Troll coho was the main target, but late season had been a little hit-and-miss locally the last few years.  This year the same.  Big coho, but numbers down.  The main smash came in Sept in Cross Sound in to Homeshore, but that inside fishery is all tidal.  If you're not fishing the flood in the right spots,  you're not catching.  The rest of the time you are better off hunting or beach combing.  The boats that were consistently on fish in Sept were doing really good, though.

Yakutat out west to Icy Bay (and beyond, I'm assuming) had a great Sept fishery for coho this year too. That's very remote, big boat country in Sept though.   Mostly freezer boats, and a few ice boats that have a good relationship with the buyer in Yakutat.  If you're a new ice boat to the area,  you may not have a buyer in Sept... you've been warned  :chuckle:

I switched up to longlining for halibut.  It was a tough grind this year,  but those fish don't catch themselves.

A pic of our biggest hali in Sept.  167# dressed.

Next up is winter kings, opener on Oct 11.
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Re: Commercial Fishing
« Reply #887 on: October 05, 2024, 07:40:56 PM »
Holy halibut!
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Re: Commercial Fishing
« Reply #888 on: October 06, 2024, 10:31:42 AM »
Quick update on the fishing season -

Chums came in like a lion,  out like a lamb.  There were some grinders that worked them until the bitter end, with scores in the 100 fish range by the end of August.  That might just cover fuel...

Most guys switched to other fisheries.  Troll coho was the main target, but late season had been a little hit-and-miss locally the last few years.  This year the same.  Big coho, but numbers down.  The main smash came in Sept in Cross Sound in to Homeshore, but that inside fishery is all tidal.  If you're not fishing the flood in the right spots,  you're not catching.  The rest of the time you are better off hunting or beach combing.  The boats that were consistently on fish in Sept were doing really good, though.

Yakutat out west to Icy Bay (and beyond, I'm assuming) had a great Sept fishery for coho this year too. That's very remote, big boat country in Sept though.   Mostly freezer boats, and a few ice boats that have a good relationship with the buyer in Yakutat.  If you're a new ice boat to the area,  you may not have a buyer in Sept... you've been warned  :chuckle:

I switched up to longlining for halibut.  It was a tough grind this year,  but those fish don't catch themselves.

A pic of our biggest hali in Sept.  167# dressed.

Next up is winter kings, opener on Oct 11.

Skillet, you know I'd have sold that one for you!
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Re: Commercial Fishing
« Reply #889 on: October 06, 2024, 11:05:36 AM »
Oh I know you would have found just the right chef for this one! 

We got paid $6/# for the fish ( 147# IFQ weight, which is hanging weight less a 12% deduct for head, slime, and ice).  Total $882. 

The actual saleable meat (skinless boneless fletches) on this guy is typically 60% of IFQ weight, so right at 88#.

A nice restaurant like your customers had would sell a 6oz halibut plate with truffle rissotto and salad for, what,  $40?   And they'd get about 230 servings out of this fish,  for a total of $9200 in revenue...

Fish math is fun.  And depressing  :chuckle:

*edited to add - the IFQ shares that i bought that gives me access to this Halibut fishery until I sell those IFQ shares cost me $41/#... so my "permission slip" to catch and sell this fish originally cost me a little over $6k...
Considering current fuel, bait, and crewshare expenses, plus interest on my quota loan, I profit about $2.00/#  on a $6.00 dock price.  Or about $300 on this fish.
 Therefore, it will take me roughly 20 years to break even on my halibut buy-in, provided all things stay the same.

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« Last Edit: October 06, 2024, 11:15:25 AM by Skillet »
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Re: Commercial Fishing
« Reply #890 on: October 06, 2024, 04:30:09 PM »
Do this kind of math with kids wanting to farm all the time, good job Skillet, go to school kids for sure!!!

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Re: Commercial Fishing
« Reply #891 on: October 06, 2024, 04:33:59 PM »
Do this kind of math with kids wanting to farm all the time, good job Skillet, go to school kids for sure!!!

Yeah but farmers, and fishermen are the salt of the earth type people we need. I appreciate all of them.👍
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Re: Commercial Fishing
« Reply #892 on: October 06, 2024, 08:56:30 PM »
Oh I know you would have found just the right chef for this one! 

We got paid $6/# for the fish ( 147# IFQ weight, which is hanging weight less a 12% deduct for head, slime, and ice).  Total $882. 

The actual saleable meat (skinless boneless fletches) on this guy is typically 60% of IFQ weight, so right at 88#.

A nice restaurant like your customers had would sell a 6oz halibut plate with truffle rissotto and salad for, what,  $40?   And they'd get about 230 servings out of this fish,  for a total of $9200 in revenue...

Fish math is fun.  And depressing  :chuckle:

*edited to add - the IFQ shares that i bought that gives me access to this Halibut fishery until I sell those IFQ shares cost me $41/#... so my "permission slip" to catch and sell this fish originally cost me a little over $6k...
Considering current fuel, bait, and crewshare expenses, plus interest on my quota loan, I profit about $2.00/#  on a $6.00 dock price.  Or about $300 on this fish.
 Therefore, it will take me roughly 20 years to break even on my halibut buy-in, provided all things stay the same.

Go to school, kids!
 :party1:

This sounds like our family doing the math on the fatten steers we sell.  Seems like we can never figure the labor/time into the equation either.  :chuckle:

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Re: Commercial Fishing
« Reply #893 on: October 11, 2024, 09:28:04 PM »
Wx pretty terrible up here for the next few days - 45 kts and 22 ft seas out front. A bunch of buddies coming in with big trips of black cod today, ahead of the weather.

Here's a deck vid on the Defiant, captain Matt is a certified fish hound

https://youtube.com/shorts/Amx-WEHL4nI?si=sM6y9z0XXZ080Wdj

Pic of his halibut set while waiting for the cod pots to fill -


My buddy Rob came in with 25,946# of round black cod on 3 days fishing -


Fall black cod season fully underway in Sitka!

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Re: Commercial Fishing
« Reply #894 on: October 11, 2024, 10:25:12 PM »
Wx pretty terrible up here for the next few days - 45 kts and 22 ft seas out front. A bunch of buddies coming in with big trips of black cod today, ahead of the weather.

Here's a deck vid on the Defiant, captain Matt is a certified fish hound

https://youtube.com/shorts/Amx-WEHL4nI?si=sM6y9z0XXZ080Wdj

Pic of his halibut set while waiting for the cod pots to fill -


My buddy Rob came in with 25,946# of round black cod on 3 days fishing -


Fall black cod season fully underway in Sitka!



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Re: Commercial Fishing
« Reply #895 on: November 06, 2024, 01:45:25 AM »
Some fine eating right there!  :tup:
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Re: Commercial Fishing
« Reply #896 on: November 06, 2024, 07:20:21 AM »
Funny seeing that giant minnow trap for the cod. Keeps them out of whale bellies, eh?
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Re: Commercial Fishing
« Reply #897 on: November 06, 2024, 09:03:20 AM »
How times have changed!  Buddy of mine was showing us his Slinky pots last time we visited Petersburg.  When we started in the early '80's, tub gear was taking the place of conventional (skate bottoms), and after you spent uncountable hours tying ganions, and sticking gear, then you get to cut/salt all your bait, bait up and go!  Oh the memories! 
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