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Offline flyfishWA

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weasel
« on: January 01, 2019, 05:40:30 PM »
my first weasel of the year! also my first furbearer of the year. great way to start the new year.
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Re: weasel
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2019, 05:51:45 PM »
 :tup:
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Re: weasel
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2019, 06:02:51 PM »
That's cool. Didn't know that's how you trap weasels.

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Re: weasel
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2019, 08:22:56 PM »
Nice. Congrats

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Re: weasel
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2019, 08:25:32 PM »
 Right on!  :tup:
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Re: weasel
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2019, 08:40:12 PM »
these little animals are awsome, I've caught 5 or 6 over the last couple years.
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Re: weasel
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2019, 05:29:21 AM »
So do wetside weasels ever turn white?

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Re: weasel
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2019, 05:38:05 AM »
What kind of a setup is that?

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Re: weasel
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2019, 07:10:10 AM »
Must be a wood guy.  Nice heavy alder box.  Couple dovetail joints away from holding jewelry on some lucky gals dresser.
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Re: weasel
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2019, 08:13:05 AM »
So do wetside weasels ever turn white?
I've never seen any turn white in my area.
What kind of a setup is that?
a box with a hole drilled in the front. you put the rat trap inside with some beaver meat and the weasel gets killed going in the whole. weather proof set
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Re: weasel
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2019, 10:36:00 AM »
Isnít there a dispute right now between the wsta and dfw about the legality of fur trapping with rat traps?
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Re: weasel
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2019, 04:01:22 PM »
Isnít there a dispute right now between the wsta and dfw about the legality of fur trapping with rat traps?

Yes, but as it stands right now, the law states that common rat traps are in fact legal...
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Re: weasel
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2019, 04:50:29 PM »
Isnít there a dispute right now between the wsta and dfw about the legality of fur trapping with rat traps?
I'm pretty sure the dispute you are talking about is whether we can use the Koro rat traps which are different https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWMbnwc_f8A

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Re: weasel
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2019, 05:03:40 PM »
I spoke with the conflict control specialist from north eastern Washington today on this to be clear. His position is they are not legal and they are waiting for the new director to make a determination. I question then if they are not allowed in the reg's then print an addendum. His response is they are allowed for pest's. Told him I didn't see that in the definitions on the reg's.  He deferred me to the WDFW furbearer specialist in Olympia.
I was also inquiring about this trap which is similar to the wood box trap but a commercial tube the specs are very close only 4.5 inches.

https://www.animaltrapsandsupplies.com/products/tube-trap.html        This could be ordered with restrictor ends to only have a 2 inch opening as well.

It states it was designed as a mink/weasel trap suited for the purpose.  :dunno:

The end caps open both ends or just one.   https://www.wildlifecontrolsupplies.com/animal/TTC.html
« Last Edit: January 02, 2019, 05:25:02 PM by Ridgeratt »

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Re: weasel
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2019, 06:12:37 PM »
Isnít there a dispute right now between the wsta and dfw about the legality of fur trapping with rat traps?
I'm pretty sure the dispute you are talking about is whether we can use the Koro rat traps which are different https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWMbnwc_f8A
wow those are slick
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Re: weasel
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2019, 04:22:13 PM »
Nice catch!  :tup:
That is something I have been wanting to do for a couple years now. I think those little short tails we have around here aren't worth more than a buck or two but it would still be fun to them. Not a lot of fur on them but it is super soft! Maybe if I catch a dozen or so I could make a mitten.  :chuckle:

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Re: weasel
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2019, 06:00:01 PM »
they're pretty hard to skin, thats for sure.
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Re: weasel
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2019, 09:48:00 AM »
Isnít there a dispute right now between the wsta and dfw about the legality of fur trapping with rat traps?
I'm pretty sure the dispute you are talking about is whether we can use the Koro rat traps which are different https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWMbnwc_f8A
This would imply that any trap being targeted at rats is legal.

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Re: weasel
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2019, 10:14:34 AM »
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,194005.0.html


FURBEARER TRAPPING SEASONS AND RULES
Effective from September 1, 2018 to March 31, 2019, both dates inclusive
https://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/02012/wdfw02012.pdf

Resident Trapping License $41.60
Non-Resident Trapping License $200.00
Resident Youth Trapping License $18.50
Fur Dealerís License $200.00
Application Fee (If purchased through Olympia office) $105.00

Trapping and Fur Dealer's licenses are available at the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) Olympia headquarters office (in person or by mail) and at all WDFW license dealers. A trapping license is valid from April 1 to March 31 of the next year.

Statewide Trapping Season: Nov 1 to Mar 31
Badger
Beaver
Bobcat
Marten
Mink
Muskrat
Raccoon
Red Fox
River Otter
Weasel

The trapping season authorizes taking of furbearing animals for their hides and pelts only. Furbearers may not be taken from the wild and held alive for sale or personal use without a permit pursuant to WAC 232-12-064. Any wildlife trapped for which the season is not open shall be released unharmed. Any wildlife that cannot be released unharmed must be left in the trap, and a WDFW regional representative must be notified immediately. Lawfully trapped wild animals must be lethally dispatched or immediately released. A firearm may be used to dispatch trapped animals.

People buying a Washington State Trapping License for the first time must pass an exam in safe, humane, and proper trapper techniques. For information on trapper education materials contact the Hunter Education section of the WDFW office in Olympia at (360) 902-8111.

IT IS UNLAWFUL TO TRAP FOR WILD ANIMALS:
 - With body-gripping traps EXCEPT by permit to abate an animal problem under WAC 232-12-142. This includes, but not limited to, padded foothold traps, unpadded foot-hold traps, all snares, and conibear type traps.

(Common rat and mouse traps are not considered body-gripping traps.)



- Unless traps are checked and animals removed within 72 hours (kill traps).
 - Unless animals captured in restraining traps (any nonkilling set) are removed within 24 hours of capture.
 - Using game birds, game fish, or game animals for bait, except nonedible parts of game birds, game fish, or game animals may be used as bait. (The meat of furbearers is not considered edible.)
 - Within thirty feet of any exposed meat bait or nonedible game parts which are visible to flying raptors.

IDENTIFICATION OF TRAPS AND DISCLOSURE OF IDENTITIES.
 - Trappers shall attach to the chain of their traps or devices a legible metal tag with either their WDFW identification number (trapper ID or Wild ID) or the name and address of the trapper in English letters not less than one-eighth inch in height. When a property owner, lessee, or tenant presents a trapper identification number to the WDFW and requests the identification of the trapper, the WDFW shall provide the requestor with the name and address of the trapper. After disclosing the trappers name, WDFW will also release the requesting individualís name and address to the trapper. It is unlawful to take a wild animal from another personís trap without permission, or to spring, pull up, damage, possess or destroy the trap; however, it is not unlawful for a person to remove a trap placed on property owned, leased, or rented by the person.

SEALING REQUIREMENTS FOR BOBCAT AND RIVER OTTER.
 - It is unlawful to possess or export from the state of Washington bobcat or river otter pelts taken in Washington without a Department identification seal attached. Bobcat and river otter pelts, on or off the carcass, must be sealed within 20 days after the close of the appropriate hunting or trapping seasons in which they were harvested. All bobcat and river otter pelts must be presented by the person harvesting them to an authorized Department employee or other authorized individual for sealing. Pelts must be presented in a way that the hide can be sealed. No frozen hides or carcasses will be accepted. To make sure office personnel are available for pelt sealing, hunters and trappers should contact a Department office prior to bringing in a bobcat or river otter.

TRAPPER'S LICENSE AND PERMISSION TO TRAP ON PRIVATE LAND.
 - A state trapping license allows the holder to trap furbearing animals throughout the state; however, a trapper may not place traps on private property without permission of the owner, lessee or tenant where the land is improved and apparently used, or where the land is fenced or enclosed in a manner designed to exclude intruders or to indicate a property boundary line, or where notice is given by posting in a conspicuous manner.

CLOSED AREAS
 - Most public lands are open to trapping, but some areas may be closed. Closed areas include, but are not limited to state and national parks, most federal wildlife refuges and state game reserves. Trappers should check with land managers prior to trapping. Maps and legal descriptions of state game reserves can be found online at: http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/. Legal descriptions of state game reserves are found in the Migratory Waterfowl and Upland Game Pamphlet and Chapter 232-16 of the Washington Administrative Code.

TRAPPER REPORT OF CATCH.
 - All licensed trappers must report their trapping activity (regardless of success or whether they trapped or not) by April 20. Reports must be made using the Departmentís Trapperís Report of Catch form or online at http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/trapping/index.php. If a trapper chooses to report using the Trapperís Report of Catch form, it is the responsibility of the licensed trapper to ensure the form is received (postmarked by April 20) by Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife, 600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, Washington 98501-1091. Any trapper not reporting by April 20 will be in noncompliance of reporting requirements. False reports will be considered the same as noncompliance. Failure to report trapping activity is an infraction, punishable under RCW 77.15.160.

This pamphlet is a summary of the trapping seasons and regulations (Chapters 232-12, 232-16 and 232-28 of the Washington Administrative Code) adopted by the Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission. This pamphlet does not contain nor is it intended to contain all Department regulations. Caution: Emergency regulation changes may occur while seasons described in this pamphlet are in effect and will supersede information contained herein. Area news media will be informed of changes as they occur.
Report trapping Activity Online

Unclassified Wildlife may be hunted or trapped year round (1)
Coyote (2)
Eastern Gray Squirrel (3)
European Rabbit (4)
Fox Squirrels
Gophers (5)
Ground Squirrels (6)
Mice
Moles
Mountain Beaver
Nutria
Opossum
Porcupine
Rats
Shrews
Skunks
Voles
Yellow-Bellied Marmot (rock chuck)

1. To hunt unclassified wildlife, you need a valid big game or small game license. You can hunt unclassified wildlife year round with no bag limit and with any weapon. For instance, you can legally hunt unclassified wildlife with an air rifle.
2. Hunting or pursuing coyotes with dogs is prohibited. Coyotes may be hunted at night EXCEPT during the months of September, October, or November in any area open to a centerfire rifle deer or elk season.
3. Western gray squirrels are protected and cannot be hunted or trapped http://wdfw.wa.gov/living/tree_squirrels.html#native
4. Other rabbits species are protected or classified, seasons and licenses apply to other hunted species
5. Mazama (Western) pocket gophers of Thurston, Pierce, Clark, and Mason Counties are threatened, protected, and cannot be hunted or trapped
6. Golden Mantled ground squirrels and Washington ground squirrels are protected and cannot be hunted or trapped.

HUNTING LICENSE REQUIREMENTS
http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/356/I+heard+about+hunting+unclassified+wildlife.+What+do+I+need+to+purchase+and+what+type+of+weapons+can+I+use+to+hunt+them%3F

WILDLIFE CLASSIFICATION
file:///C:/Users/dale/Downloads/Small%20Game,%20Furbearers,%20and%20Unclassified%20Species%20(3).pdf



Directly from the reg's.

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Re: weasel
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2019, 05:26:46 PM »
I'm not going to go into a lot of details but their status is under discussion within DFW. A lawsuit is a possibility.
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Re: weasel
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2019, 07:58:14 PM »
I'm not going to go into a lot of details but their status is under discussion within DFW. A lawsuit is a possibility.
:tup:
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