collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: Backcountry tent  (Read 5891 times)

Offline rooseveltkiller

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Pilgrim
  • *
  • Join Date: Nov 2017
  • Posts: 10
  • Location: os
Backcountry tent
« on: July 15, 2019, 08:48:41 AM »
I was wondering if anyone has used or owns a kifaru tent or something similar. Im wanting to get info on using that type of shelter in the washington high country. Maybe, there is a better tent or shelter option with a stove? Thanks

Offline Bushcraft

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2008
  • Posts: 885
  • Location: Olympic Peninsula
  • Groups: NRA, SCI, NSSF, RMEF, RMGA, MDF, WSF, DU, HHC, WWC, WDAC
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2019, 09:02:09 AM »
I've owned and/or used pretty much all of the Kifaru shelters except for the Tut.

What do you want to know specifically?
Liberalism is the philosophy of Western suicide. 

Work hard. Hunt hard. Lift other hunters up.

*Proud supporter of NRA, NRA-ILA SCI, SCIF, SCI-PAC, NSSF, RMEF, RMGA, MDF, WSF, DU, WWA, HHC, WWC

Offline rooseveltkiller

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Pilgrim
  • *
  • Join Date: Nov 2017
  • Posts: 10
  • Location: os
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2019, 09:58:19 AM »
I was wondering about not having a floor a pro or con? Does more condensation happen? I know with a stove you could dry everything out but if i choose to not bring a stove is there any negative to that? Whats your experience do you use them for backcountry hunting? Are they worth every penny?

Offline rooseveltkiller

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Pilgrim
  • *
  • Join Date: Nov 2017
  • Posts: 10
  • Location: os
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2019, 10:06:35 AM »
Also what about the rain we get in the Olympics? Will it hold up to that?

Offline Eric M

  • WA State Trappers Association
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2015
  • Posts: 1532
  • Location: somewhere in time
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2019, 10:23:29 AM »
Check out this video. She actually has a lot of great videos. She has thru hiked the AT, PCT, and CDT. Dont be against using something other than what a hunting company is selling. These hikers spend months at a time using their equipment. This gal knows what works. Plus her southern accent is pretty great.

Offline Magnum_Willys

  • Political Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2009
  • Posts: 4189
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2019, 10:35:40 AM »
I have the Seek 8 man and xl stove.  If you need heat ( i.e. wet snow or rain) and must have something packable the tipi gets it done.  If you don't need to dry out then I prefer small 2 man tent with fly and tub floor.   If you can horse, quad or truck camp then tipi would not be my first or second choices.

If you are stuck in nasty weather with a buddy or two its nice to have a warm place to dry gear.  Condensation can be a problem if stove not used. 

Offline jackelope

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+23)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 43053
  • Location: Duvall, WA
  • Groups: WSB RMGA NRA RMEF BHA
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2019, 11:32:47 AM »
Floorless or not floorless seems to be a personal thing aside from the heat aspect. I tried it, didn't like it and just sold my last floorless shelter. Bottom line is you gotta try for yourself. Adjustments can be made for condensation is what I've found.
:fire.:

" In today's instant gratification society, more and more pressure revolves around success and the measurement of one's prowess as a hunter by inches on a score chart or field photos produced on social media. Don't fall into the trap. Hunting is-and always will be- about the hunt, the adventure, the views, and time spent with close friends and family. " Ryan Hatfield

My posts, opinions and statements do not represent those of this forum

Offline Bushcraft

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2008
  • Posts: 885
  • Location: Olympic Peninsula
  • Groups: NRA, SCI, NSSF, RMEF, RMGA, MDF, WSF, DU, HHC, WWC, WDAC
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2019, 11:49:02 AM »
I was wondering about not having a floor a pro or con? Does more condensation happen? I know with a stove you could dry everything out but if i choose to not bring a stove is there any negative to that? Whats your experience do you use them for backcountry hunting? Are they worth every penny?


You can always lay down a piece of Tyvek if you want.  Presumably you are going to use one anyway to keep your sleeping pad and bag clean.  Ostensibly, a large enough piece would effectively block that aspect of the condensation issue (it's the same with any single wall shelter).

Tipi's are essentially an enclosed tarp. But, they can take far more wind, rain and snow than most tarps and tents (except for 4-season bombproof tents like Hillebergs) assuming they are pitched well on firm ground.  But they really come into their own when a stove is added to heat the shelter.  You can definitely get away without using a liner in very arid environments, but I would never use one in the Pacific Northwest without a liner, particularly when using a stove.     

Imagine comfortably sitting in your shelter in a chair sippin' a little bourbon while wearing nothing but your birthday suit while the rest of your hunting gear is drying out....while a massive rain or snow storm is raging outside.  You can do that in a Kifaru or any of its copycats. Can't do that in anything else you can backpack into the wilderness.

Liberalism is the philosophy of Western suicide. 

Work hard. Hunt hard. Lift other hunters up.

*Proud supporter of NRA, NRA-ILA SCI, SCIF, SCI-PAC, NSSF, RMEF, RMGA, MDF, WSF, DU, WWA, HHC, WWC

Offline Eric M

  • WA State Trappers Association
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2015
  • Posts: 1532
  • Location: somewhere in time
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2019, 12:33:48 PM »
On a serious note, before spending 600 to 1000 dollars on something, do some research. Hilleberg (kifarus tent line) makes great quality tents if youre going to be above treeline in harsh conditions. But there's a lot of good quality stuff out there. There are tons of good gear reviews on youtube and elsewhere. How often are you going to use it? What time of year? In the summer when i go scouting, I just use a tarp. The video i posted discusses ground sheets also. IMO you can spend a lot less on gear, and still get quality gear, on  stuff that's geared toward backpackers instead of hunters. Also in a lot of cases you can find good quality gear used because a lot of people are chasing the ultimate in ultra light and last years model weighed 6 ounces more blah blah. I do recommend something with a vestibule so u can keep your gear out of the weather and cook. Youtube has a channel called "The Trek", which posts thru hikers videos. A lot of them post their gear lists in the comments section. Their shelters sometimes change depending on if they are in the Sierras during early season or hiking thru Washington in early August. Anyway my  :twocents:

Offline CoryTDF

  • Make it Rain!!!
  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2009
  • Posts: 2985
  • Location: Walla Walla
  • Look at me I'm blowing a duck call!
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2019, 01:34:27 PM »
On a serious note, before spending 600 to 1000 dollars on something, do some research. Hilleberg (kifarus tent line) makes great quality tents if youre going to be above treeline in harsh conditions. But there's a lot of good quality stuff out there. There are tons of good gear reviews on youtube and elsewhere. How often are you going to use it? What time of year? In the summer when i go scouting, I just use a tarp. The video i posted discusses ground sheets also. IMO you can spend a lot less on gear, and still get quality gear, on  stuff that's geared toward backpackers instead of hunters. Also in a lot of cases you can find good quality gear used because a lot of people are chasing the ultimate in ultra light and last years model weighed 6 ounces more blah blah. I do recommend something with a vestibule so u can keep your gear out of the weather and cook. Youtube has a channel called "The Trek", which posts thru hikers videos. A lot of them post their gear lists in the comments section. Their shelters sometimes change depending on if they are in the Sierras during early season or hiking thru Washington in early August. Anyway my  :twocents:

Probably not common knowledge on here but I write product reviews as a side gig. One of the big shows I attend is the Outdoor Retailer show in Denver. During this show I meet with lots of backpacking gear companies and one of my great selling points is the "Most hunting trips are nothing more than camouflage backpacking trips." The same JetBoil that heats water for a Vegan Non-GMO Organic Tofu Stew meal that an ultra woke millennial backpacker in Zion uses could also be heating up some Ramen and Backstrap Stew on a backcountry ridge someplace. Point is, most backpacking gear is very functional hunting gear disguised as ultra hippy gear for the modern day man bun crowd. Your tent, sleeping bag, sleeping pad, fork, headlamp or anything else does not NEED to be camouflage to be functional. MSR is great stuff and the color red is not on the spectrum for most animals you would be hunting so.... 
CoryTDF

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
- Edmund Burke (1729-1797), British statesman and philosopher

Offline AROTTY

  • Political Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Tracker
  • **
  • Join Date: Jan 2017
  • Posts: 95
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2019, 01:53:56 PM »
Has anyone tried those polish milsurp lavvu shelters? Was going to give that a shot before dropping the $$$ on a kirfaru.

Offline Bushcraft

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2008
  • Posts: 885
  • Location: Olympic Peninsula
  • Groups: NRA, SCI, NSSF, RMEF, RMGA, MDF, WSF, DU, HHC, WWC, WDAC
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2019, 02:01:03 PM »
You nailed it CoryTDF.

That said, out of necessity hunting packs and outer shell clothing like rain gear tends to be far more robust than what's available on the recreational side of the product/use spectrum.

Other than my clothing, rifle, optics and backpack, I'm rolling with the same state-of-the-art ultra-light backpacking and/or mountaineering gear the man-bun crowd is using. 

Sylnylon tarp if I can get away with it. Kifaru Megatarp if I need a serious shelter that I can heat while retaining mobility. Big Kifaru tipi with liner if there's going to be a base-camp. Hilleberg Soulo if I'm up in the rocks and can expect some nasty weather.
Liberalism is the philosophy of Western suicide. 

Work hard. Hunt hard. Lift other hunters up.

*Proud supporter of NRA, NRA-ILA SCI, SCIF, SCI-PAC, NSSF, RMEF, RMGA, MDF, WSF, DU, WWA, HHC, WWC

Offline Bushcraft

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2008
  • Posts: 885
  • Location: Olympic Peninsula
  • Groups: NRA, SCI, NSSF, RMEF, RMGA, MDF, WSF, DU, HHC, WWC, WDAC
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2019, 02:09:17 PM »
Has anyone tried those polish milsurp lavvu shelters? Was going to give that a shot before dropping the $$$ on a kirfaru.

I haven't heard of them.

One thing to keep in mind, the Kifaru gear tends to hold it's resale value really well. Sometimes you can buy a brand spanking new piece of gear from them (with the lead time) and immediately turn around and sell it for more to someone that wants it right now and doesn't care about paying a premium and doesn't want to wait.

If you're patient you can find one that's going for a fire sale because either some guy doesn't care and just wants the next cool piece of gear that he thinks is going to make him a more successful hunter, or someone's wife is pissed and is forcing the sale.   
Liberalism is the philosophy of Western suicide. 

Work hard. Hunt hard. Lift other hunters up.

*Proud supporter of NRA, NRA-ILA SCI, SCIF, SCI-PAC, NSSF, RMEF, RMGA, MDF, WSF, DU, WWA, HHC, WWC

Offline follow maggie

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2008
  • Posts: 1763
  • Location: Bremerton, WA
  • Hunt anywhere, anytime!
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2019, 02:26:20 PM »
On a serious note, before spending 600 to 1000 dollars on something, do some research. Hilleberg (kifarus tent line) makes great quality tents if youre going to be above treeline in harsh conditions. But there's a lot of good quality stuff out there. There are tons of good gear reviews on youtube and elsewhere. How often are you going to use it? What time of year? In the summer when i go scouting, I just use a tarp. The video i posted discusses ground sheets also. IMO you can spend a lot less on gear, and still get quality gear, on  stuff that's geared toward backpackers instead of hunters. Also in a lot of cases you can find good quality gear used because a lot of people are chasing the ultimate in ultra light and last years model weighed 6 ounces more blah blah. I do recommend something with a vestibule so u can keep your gear out of the weather and cook. Youtube has a channel called "The Trek", which posts thru hikers videos. A lot of them post their gear lists in the comments section. Their shelters sometimes change depending on if they are in the Sierras during early season or hiking thru Washington in early August. Anyway my  :twocents:

Probably not common knowledge on here but I write product reviews as a side gig. One of the big shows I attend is the Outdoor Retailer show in Denver. During this show I meet with lots of backpacking gear companies and one of my great selling points is the "Most hunting trips are nothing more than camouflage backpacking trips." The same JetBoil that heats water for a Vegan Non-GMO Organic Tofu Stew meal that an ultra woke millennial backpacker in Zion uses could also be heating up some Ramen and Backstrap Stew on a backcountry ridge someplace. Point is, most backpacking gear is very functional hunting gear disguised as ultra hippy gear for the modern day man bun crowd. Your tent, sleeping bag, sleeping pad, fork, headlamp or anything else does not NEED to be camouflage to be functional. MSR is great stuff and the color red is not on the spectrum for most animals you would be hunting so....

This is a fact. I've been using backpacking gear and clothes since the 1990s when I started hunting because it was far better than any hunting brand. The newer hunting brands make good stuff, but you pay for it dearly. The backpacking stuff is still a better value most of the time. I'd love to have a Hilleberg tent, but I'd buy it from Hilleberg rather than Kifaru- direct from the maker at the same price.

Offline Eric M

  • WA State Trappers Association
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2015
  • Posts: 1532
  • Location: somewhere in time
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2019, 02:28:53 PM »
Has anyone tried those polish milsurp lavvu shelters? Was going to give that a shot before dropping the $$$ on a kirfaru.
Not familiar with that specifically. Most military surplus stuff is sturdy, durable, and heavy. Looks like youd have to carry a ground tarp also.

Offline 3dvapor

  • Political Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2009
  • Posts: 715
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2019, 03:58:14 PM »
I have the seek redcliff and bought that because of the double  doors and screens.  Its nice to really open the tent up during the day.

Offline rooseveltkiller

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Pilgrim
  • *
  • Join Date: Nov 2017
  • Posts: 10
  • Location: os
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2019, 04:29:41 PM »
Thanks everyone for your knowledge and input. I will be using the tent mostly in the higher elevations in washington, idaho and possibly montana. Drying out your clothes is a game changer in my mind and am not afraid of going outside the box and using mountaineering gear. 

Offline rooseveltkiller

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Pilgrim
  • *
  • Join Date: Nov 2017
  • Posts: 10
  • Location: os
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2019, 04:33:25 PM »
I do want to stay mobile and lightweight as i can without sacrificing protection. I was using a cheap 2 person tent for 3 years now and in my last scouting trip in the olympics the tent failed on me so im in the market. I have been wanting to upgrade my tent for a year or so now.

Offline jackelope

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+23)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 43053
  • Location: Duvall, WA
  • Groups: WSB RMGA NRA RMEF BHA
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2019, 04:34:24 PM »
Quote
On a serious note, before spending 600 to 1000 dollars on something, do some research. Hilleberg (kifarus tent line) makes great quality tents if youre going to be above treeline in harsh conditions.

Is Hilleberg really Kifaru's tent line?
:fire.:

" In today's instant gratification society, more and more pressure revolves around success and the measurement of one's prowess as a hunter by inches on a score chart or field photos produced on social media. Don't fall into the trap. Hunting is-and always will be- about the hunt, the adventure, the views, and time spent with close friends and family. " Ryan Hatfield

My posts, opinions and statements do not represent those of this forum

Offline mountainman

  • Political Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 3419
  • Location: Wenatchee, Wa
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2019, 04:40:33 PM »
Kifaru and Tyvek. Winning combo in all conditions👍
That Sword is more important than the Shield!

Offline Bushcraft

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2008
  • Posts: 885
  • Location: Olympic Peninsula
  • Groups: NRA, SCI, NSSF, RMEF, RMGA, MDF, WSF, DU, HHC, WWC, WDAC
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2019, 07:02:16 PM »
Quote
On a serious note, before spending 600 to 1000 dollars on something, do some research. Hilleberg (kifarus tent line) makes great quality tents if youre going to be above treeline in harsh conditions.

Is Hilleberg really Kifaru's tent line?

No. Kifaru just has an agreement to sell the "other" best shelter systems on the planet for backcountry hunters.  :chuckle:


Liberalism is the philosophy of Western suicide. 

Work hard. Hunt hard. Lift other hunters up.

*Proud supporter of NRA, NRA-ILA SCI, SCIF, SCI-PAC, NSSF, RMEF, RMGA, MDF, WSF, DU, WWA, HHC, WWC

Offline Bushcraft

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2008
  • Posts: 885
  • Location: Olympic Peninsula
  • Groups: NRA, SCI, NSSF, RMEF, RMGA, MDF, WSF, DU, HHC, WWC, WDAC
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2019, 07:02:48 PM »
Kifaru and Tyvek. Winning combo in all conditions👍

Did you put a stove in that Tut?
Liberalism is the philosophy of Western suicide. 

Work hard. Hunt hard. Lift other hunters up.

*Proud supporter of NRA, NRA-ILA SCI, SCIF, SCI-PAC, NSSF, RMEF, RMGA, MDF, WSF, DU, WWA, HHC, WWC

Offline Tbob

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2014
  • Posts: 1614
  • Location: Seattle
  • Groups: King co. Search and Rescue
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2019, 07:09:07 PM »
I run the Seekoutside Redcliff when itís more than just myself. The stove is definitely a game changer in the nasty weather. We sat in snow and below freezing early this spring on a shed hunting trip and we were soooo hot in there! Yep, we had little chairs and a bottle of bourbon too. Had to open both doors and the top vent wide open for a bit because it was just so dang hot in there.
    You do get condensation, but eh, I just give the walls a quick wipe down and itís all good. I know it bothers some people, but doesnít seem to bother us much.
  I really like not having to take my boots off in my floorless too. Havenít had any bug or rodent problems as of yet, but that doesnít bother me to much either. I think my entire set up with center pole and steaks with stove and 8ft stove pipe Iím at just around 10 lbs. not bad for a Bitchin backcountry heated camp!

Offline Magnum_Willys

  • Political Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2009
  • Posts: 4189
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2019, 09:11:59 PM »
I run the Seekoutside Redcliff when itís more than just myself. The stove is definitely a game changer in the nasty weather. We sat in snow and below freezing early this spring on a shed hunting trip and we were soooo hot in there! Yep, we had little chairs and a bottle of bourbon too. Had to open both doors and the top vent wide open for a bit because it was just so dang hot in there.
    You do get condensation, but eh, I just give the walls a quick wipe down and itís all good. I know it bothers some people, but doesnít seem to bother us much.
  I really like not having to take my boots off in my floorless too. Havenít had any bug or rodent problems as of yet, but that doesnít bother me to much either. I think my entire set up with center pole and steaks with stove and 8ft stove pipe Iím at just around 10 lbs. not bad for a Bitchin backcountry heated camp!
   How big where those steaks ? 12 oz New Yorks ?    :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Offline Eric M

  • WA State Trappers Association
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2015
  • Posts: 1532
  • Location: somewhere in time
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2019, 03:09:06 AM »
Quote
On a serious note, before spending 600 to 1000 dollars on something, do some research. Hilleberg (kifarus tent line) makes great quality tents if youre going to be above treeline in harsh conditions.

Is Hilleberg really Kifaru's tent line?
To be correct in my language, Kifaru sells Hilleberg tents. When you look at shelters on Kifarus web page, Hilleberg tents are listed at the top.
https://store.kifaru.net/mobile/shelters-c5.aspx?gclid=CjwKCAjw67XpBRBqEiwA5RCocXBDl1DCND8q03O222zsNwQWQUcSnUVxNps0fjsuHEot5v3t-uAiXhoCqZoQAvD_BwE

Offline Tooch16

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Pilgrim
  • *
  • Join Date: Aug 2016
  • Posts: 6
  • Location: Oak harbor
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2019, 12:55:56 PM »
I was in the exact same situation that you were in.  I decided to check out a company out of Forks Wa called LUXE.  They make Tipi style tents that are also stove compatible.  I went with their 3-man Hexpeak XL tipi, and it worked out great for me when i went camping up in the cascades scouting for some mule deer.  They do sell inner tents if you want to have a mixture of a tipi style and traditional style tent.  They're significantly cheaper than Kifaru and Seek outside tents, and as far as i can tell built just as well.  If you show up to their brick and mortar store, they do have a few tents that people have returned at a pretty good discount.  They also set up three different tents for me to experiment with when i drove over from Whidbey Island to check them out.  Their customer service is on point, and they were honest with me about any conerns i had.  It's well worth the drive over there if you have the chance just to see everything in person before dropping a few hundred bucks on something. 

Offline full choke

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2009
  • Posts: 1305
  • Location: Maple Valley
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2019, 02:02:40 PM »
I was in the exact same situation that you were in.  I decided to check out a company out of Forks Wa called LUXE.  They make Tipi style tents that are also stove compatible.  I went with their 3-man Hexpeak XL tipi, and it worked out great for me when i went camping up in the cascades scouting for some mule deer.  They do sell inner tents if you want to have a mixture of a tipi style and traditional style tent.  They're significantly cheaper than Kifaru and Seek outside tents, and as far as i can tell built just as well.  If you show up to their brick and mortar store, they do have a few tents that people have returned at a pretty good discount.  They also set up three different tents for me to experiment with when i drove over from Whidbey Island to check them out.  Their customer service is on point, and they were honest with me about any conerns i had.  It's well worth the drive over there if you have the chance just to see everything in person before dropping a few hundred bucks on something.

 :tup:

Offline rooseveltkiller

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Pilgrim
  • *
  • Join Date: Nov 2017
  • Posts: 10
  • Location: os
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2019, 02:04:37 PM »
I will definitely go to forks and check them out! Well worth the drive for me its only a little ways away.

Offline follow maggie

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2008
  • Posts: 1763
  • Location: Bremerton, WA
  • Hunt anywhere, anytime!
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2019, 04:49:40 PM »
Quote
On a serious note, before spending 600 to 1000 dollars on something, do some research. Hilleberg (kifarus tent line) makes great quality tents if youre going to be above treeline in harsh conditions.

Is Hilleberg really Kifaru's tent line?

Kifaru sells Hilleberg. Hilleberg is a family owned company out of Sweden.

Offline follow maggie

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2008
  • Posts: 1763
  • Location: Bremerton, WA
  • Hunt anywhere, anytime!
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2019, 04:50:31 PM »
Sorry. I answered before I scrolled down the page & saw it answered a couple times. Didn't mean to beat a dead horse.

Offline cvandervort

  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Apr 2012
  • Posts: 177
  • Location: Mill Creek, WA
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2019, 05:10:17 PM »
Wanna try floorless on the cheap? Mountainsmith LT!
Got one off a member here a few years ago - put a stove jack in it - works great!
Not as much headroom as some of the other ones, but the price was right, and Iíve fit 2 guys plus gear.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
For Pete's sake...pick up your feet, man!

Offline Tbob

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2014
  • Posts: 1614
  • Location: Seattle
  • Groups: King co. Search and Rescue
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2019, 06:57:31 PM »
I run the Seekoutside Redcliff when itís more than just myself. The stove is definitely a game changer in the nasty weather. We sat in snow and below freezing early this spring on a shed hunting trip and we were soooo hot in there! Yep, we had little chairs and a bottle of bourbon too. Had to open both doors and the top vent wide open for a bit because it was just so dang hot in there.
    You do get condensation, but eh, I just give the walls a quick wipe down and itís all good. I know it bothers some people, but doesnít seem to bother us much.
  I really like not having to take my boots off in my floorless too. Havenít had any bug or rodent problems as of yet, but that doesnít bother me to much either. I think my entire set up with center pole and steaks with stove and 8ft stove pipe Iím at just around 10 lbs. not bad for a Bitchin backcountry heated camp!
   How big where those steaks ? 12 oz New Yorks ?    :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Ha!

Offline hollymaster

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2012
  • Posts: 1070
  • Location: Enumclaw
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2019, 09:24:43 PM »
I was in the exact same situation that you were in.  I decided to check out a company out of Forks Wa called LUXE.  They make Tipi style tents that are also stove compatible.  I went with their 3-man Hexpeak XL tipi, and it worked out great for me when i went camping up in the cascades scouting for some mule deer.  They do sell inner tents if you want to have a mixture of a tipi style and traditional style tent.  They're significantly cheaper than Kifaru and Seek outside tents, and as far as i can tell built just as well.  If you show up to their brick and mortar store, they do have a few tents that people have returned at a pretty good discount.  They also set up three different tents for me to experiment with when i drove over from Whidbey Island to check them out.  Their customer service is on point, and they were honest with me about any conerns i had.  It's well worth the drive over there if you have the chance just to see everything in person before dropping a few hundred bucks on something.
If only they were open on Saturday....

Offline mountainman

  • Political Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 3419
  • Location: Wenatchee, Wa
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2019, 08:47:43 PM »

[/quote]yo
Kifaru and Tyvek. Winning combo in all conditions👍

Did you put a stove in that Tut?
Yes. Have a titanium Lite outdoors
That Sword is more important than the Shield!

Offline T-Dozzer

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2013
  • Posts: 764
  • Location: East and West
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2020, 08:31:55 PM »
Floorless or not floorless seems to be a personal thing aside from the heat aspect. I tried it, didn't like it and just sold my last floorless shelter. Bottom line is you gotta try for yourself. Adjustments can be made for condensation is what I've found.

What didn't you like about it? I'm about to buy a Seekoutside cimarron & a U-turn stove.

Online 444Marlin

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Oct 2019
  • Posts: 103
  • Location: Oregon
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2020, 08:51:08 PM »
I was running floorless pyramid style tents when I was into backpacking and mountaineering....way before I was into hunting.  I had a  black diamond Megamid and then a Go Lite hexa-mid tent with the lighter fabric.  For a 2-3 persons (or 4 in a pinch) it's hard to beat the weight to space ratio.  And simplicity and ability to run them with cut poles or trekking poles.  Camped in the Alaska range, Mt. Rainier and other high peaks in tough weather and they held up.  Oly Pen for winter steelhead season.

Condensation is a problem if you pitch it on moist ground in the sun.  Especially sandy river banks!  Ground tarps, candles, stoves, ventilation and only pitching it at dusk mitigates that.  You can double duty your tarp for a cleaning surface for butchering your elk.

I still use the Go Lite...it's close to 18 years old now.  I'm thinking of upgrading to a Seek Outside Cimmeron with a stove jack to keep it toasty in the 4th season.  Seek Outside is knocking it out of the park with their seam construction, extra tie-outs and customer service. 

Offline Craig

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 2109
  • Location: Olympia
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #36 on: March 28, 2020, 07:49:27 AM »
Had a kifaru tipi. Did not like it. By the time you get the tipi , the liner, the stove. Then collect wood for the stove itís a pain in the butt. Condensation was always a issue. Takes a pretty good size level spot to set up to. Switched to a 3 person big angus tent and a good Low temp EE quilt. Couldnít be happier with this set up. Lots of room for one person or two people with your gear stored inside the tent with you. Camped at 11,500í High hint in Colorado. Thunderstorms and rain. Worked well.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2020, 08:36:04 AM by Craig »

Offline 3dvapor

  • Political Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2009
  • Posts: 715
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #37 on: March 28, 2020, 08:22:31 AM »
Im running the seek redcliff with there sxl stove.  Built a pellet adapter for the stove for truck camping works awesome!

Offline Magnum_Willys

  • Political Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2009
  • Posts: 4189
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2020, 09:25:46 AM »
Had a kifaru tipi. Did not like it. By the time you get the tipi , the liner, the stove. Then collect wood for the stove itís a pain in the butt. Condensation was always a issue. Takes a pretty good size level spot to set up to. Switched to a 3 person big angus tent and a good Low temp EE quilt. Couldnít be happier with this set up. Lots of room for one person or two people with your gear stored inside the tent with you. Camped at 11,500í High hint in Colorado. Thunderstorms and rain. Worked well.

For me the tipi's use is very narrow - only use when a stove needed - i.e. wet or snowy,  stay more than one night in an area, two or more guys staying in it.  Usually guys sleeping in individual one/two man tents and a common firepit / tarp works best and sets up in minutes with little or no condensation issues. 

But if you are coming into camp wet, its worth it to fire stove up, hang clothes and get ready for tomorrows hunt.   

But with Merino wool and Chugach raingear and two spare pairs of sox I can stay pretty dry anyway.  Just shed layers before sweating.

Offline milldozer

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Jan 2014
  • Posts: 129
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2020, 02:48:22 PM »
Any recommendations for a tent tent?  Looking to upgrade my 5lb 2 man to something lighter.  Seriously looking at the Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL2 (3lb 1 oz).  Any other light options for a 2 man tent?

Online The scout

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+6)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2012
  • Posts: 1513
  • Location: belfair
Re: Backcountry tent
« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2020, 03:10:58 PM »
I love my copper spur. I am not a floorless shelter guy though. Camofire has a good selection of tents today. I think they have the copper spur you mentioned

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Who's hunted Green River 485? by trophyhunt
[Today at 07:48:07 PM]


Lost Rino 750 by 444Marlin
[Today at 07:47:01 PM]


10 year old daughters first deer. by Dan-o
[Today at 07:44:37 PM]


2020 Deer post em here by Harbor_hunter
[Today at 07:41:45 PM]


Suppressors by fowl smacker
[Today at 07:20:47 PM]


Seasons/Limits for Mergansers by eglseder
[Today at 07:03:01 PM]


Cinebar by fishnfur
[Today at 06:57:07 PM]


Sako A7 roughtech pro in .270 win by nicz
[Today at 06:53:33 PM]


Which Weatherby Caliber? by str8meat
[Today at 06:52:40 PM]


Whidbey Island Public Deer Hunting / Trillium Forrest by fishnfur
[Today at 06:49:28 PM]


2020 Blacktail rut/pre-rut thread by Spuddieselwwu
[Today at 06:48:25 PM]


morning shoot by asmith
[Today at 05:59:45 PM]


Wts brand new in box savage 220 by JasonG
[Today at 05:27:21 PM]


WTS - 1992 Northland Yukon Pickup Camper by Deserthunter2016
[Today at 05:26:53 PM]


Blacktail hunting around whitetails by fishnfur
[Today at 05:18:19 PM]


Success! by WAcoyotehunter
[Today at 05:15:26 PM]


Smokey stove by MHWASH
[Today at 04:45:45 PM]


Garmin 64 ST by Rat44
[Today at 04:39:50 PM]


Blacktail Down and Rutting Hard by fishnfur
[Today at 04:03:42 PM]


Idaho returned controlled hunt rifle cow tag 19A by TheProjEng
[Today at 03:11:33 PM]