Question on poaching

[swanderek]

I had no idea it was that bad. It’s amazing some deer get as big as they do.

[buckfvr]

believing everything you hear and read is certainly gullible.  Is it what they would like you to believe or is it actual fact.........out of respect for both sides, I always look for truth somewhere in the middle.

[dilleytech]

Let's take wearing Hunter Orange ,I'm just a betting man that if you will break one rule you will break many more.
I almost never wear it in the truck,but as soon as I get out I put it on.

If your driving up at dusk to go hunting the next mourning without camping gear and such ,seem a little out of place

I also don’t wear orange until I’m out of the vehicle. But just so yo know a lot of people will sleep in there drivers seat.

I feel the overwhelming majority of “poaching” is accidental. But maybe I’m wrong and just have never met these groups of people. The kinda people who refer to elk and deer as small deer and big deer generally have no idea what the laws are.

[huntingfool7]

A study by Oregon St U about 15 years ago said for one legally taken animal there is one illegally taken animal.

Would not surprise me at all.  I've known some poachers, most are long dead now.  None of them limited themselves to 1 big game animal a year.

[mountainman]

I grew up in a time and area when dad's would occasionally go out back and take a deer to feed their family, and also seen those that poach for a profit. Horns, hides, gall, etc...agree that #'s are high, most would be suprised how high

[Bango skank]

Let's take wearing Hunter Orange ,I'm just a betting man that if you will break one rule you will break many more.
I almost never wear it in the truck,but as soon as I get out I put it on.

If your driving up at dusk to go hunting the next mourning without camping gear and such ,seem a little out of place

How do you know who has camping gear?  Ill drive up into the woods in the dark st night, then crawl into the bed of my truck as nd sleep.  That way im already there in the morning. If im hunting somewhere an hour + from home it just lets me sleep in that much longer.

And no, not wearing orange doesnt mean youre going to be a poacher.  If i decide not to wear orange, thats my call.  Its my own personal safety, that should be my choice.  Yeah, i could get a ticket.  Whatever.

[KFhunter]

I think it's 10:1 or higher

families have long history of poaching, whole communities who poach.   I think it's getting worse as respect for WDFW goes down the drain, no one fears getting caught let alone seeing much done in court even if they are caught.  If legal hunters disdain and detest WDFW, how do you think poachers feel?   

I actually think as WDFW circles the drain its creating more and more poachers.  Can't tell you how many guys I hear say "piss on WDFW, I'm just going to poach this crap keeps up"  and those statements aren't coming from tweakers or law breakers...far far from it.   


10:1 might be conservative actually. 

[swanderek]

So you think that 10 deer are poached for everyone taken legally?

[Rainier10]

10 deer to 1 in some areas/GMU’s would not surprise me at all. Statewide average I bet is less, maybe three to one.

[KFhunter]

10 deer to 1 in some areas/GMU’s would not surprise me at all. Statewide average I bet is less, maybe three to one.

 

should have made that more clear.  Statewide I got no idea, but we all know of areas with high incidents of poaching...yet what is done about it??? hrm??


coworker moved in from out of town, got to know him,  he bought property near a certain area,  I tried to warn him....

He improved his raw property, made some deer feeders, food plot.   come opening morning his place was littered with carcasses, like 7 different gut piles.

[Bob33]

Hunters report around 30,000 deer legally killed each year. If 3x that number are poached, that's 120,000 total. I don't believe the ratio is that high. I suspect it is closer to 1 to 1; maybe a little higher. What those numbers don't considered are deer killed and not recovered,  and possibly 2 points killed in 3 point areas and left.

[Rainier10]

I would put two points shot and left on the ground in the poached category.   

[Gobble Doc]

I’ll bet more people fishing without a license than hunting.


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[Bob33]

I would put two points shot and left on the ground in the poached category.   

I would agree. Another number in the mix are deer legally killed but not reported. If there are 40,000 deer legally killed and the poaching number is 3x then that's a total of 160,000.

[Bango skank]

40k x3 = 120k, not 160k