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Proposal to stop beaver trapping in OR
« on: May 20, 2020, 10:14:08 PM »
A request has been made to stop all beaver trapping in Oregon on all National Forests and other public lands. As a citizen of the United States, all National Properties are owned by Americans. Public comment on this issue closes May 24th, so we must act fast. You can voice your opposition to these closures by clicking on this link.
odfw.commission@state.or.us



Here is a sample of what you might send:


To whom it may concern,

It has come to my attention that it is being suggested that beaver trapping be closed on all National Forests, Bureau of Land Management lands, National Monuments, Federal Wildlife Refuges, National Parks and National Grasslands in the state of Oregon, for the benefit of Coho Salmon.
Data from the results of similar management tactics in other states reveal this is ineffective.
As a U.S. citizen owning an interest in all National properties, I am strongly against the possibility of these closures.


Public comment on this issue closes May 24th, so we must act fast. You can voice your opposition to these closures by clicking on the link.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2020, 10:24:33 PM by Humptulips »
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Re: Proposal to stop beaver trapping in OR
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2020, 11:12:35 PM »
not a good link Bruce. Please update.
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Re: Proposal to stop beaver trapping in OR
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2020, 08:54:56 AM »
Here's the Commission web page
https://www.dfw.state.or.us/agency/commission/
You can comment by clicking comments or take the link off the bottom of the page.
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Re: Proposal to stop beaver trapping in OR
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2020, 11:24:30 AM »
Message sent, thanks Bruce.
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Re: Proposal to stop beaver trapping in OR
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2020, 12:48:40 PM »
I responded also. Thanks for the link. We need more people to become activists if we are going to keep our rights and pass on our heritage.

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Re: Proposal to stop beaver trapping in OR
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2020, 09:13:51 PM »
This idea is uninformed virtue signaling.  BLUF (Bottom Line Up Front) beaver have to be managed to some extent wherever they are. Trapping is the most effective way to manage beaver.  Specific to this plea -  Coho Salmon habitat restoration managers end up having to trap A LOT of beaver. They spend thousands planting willow and other favorite beaver food to provide shaded water etc. for Coho.  Then they are surprised when beaver move in and build dams flooding their project (submerging and killing other plantings) and the neighboring properties they promised wouldn't get flooded.  Beaver also flood roads and railroads which go through public lands. Every year there will be more beaver and every year beaver will need to be trapped.  If the beaver are not managed with trapping the State will eventually have desperate Coho habitat managers complaining about beaver, millions in damages to State infrastructure and possibly millions more paid damages after losing lawsuits brought by adjoining and/or upstream private property owners.   

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Re: Proposal to stop beaver trapping in OR
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2020, 09:20:45 PM »
This idea is uninformed virtue signaloing.  BLUF (Bottom Line Up Front) beaver have to be managed to some extent wherever they are. Trapping is the most effective way to manage beaver.  Specific to this plea -  Coho Salmon habitat restoration managers end up having to trap A LOT of beaver. They spend thousands planting willow and other favorite beaver food to provide shaded water etc. for Coho.  Then they are surprised when beaver move in and build dams flooding their project (submerging and killing other plantings) and the neighboring properties they promised wouldn't get flooded.  Beaver also flood roads and railroads which go through public lands. Every year there will be more beaver and every year beaver will need to be trapped.  If the beaver are not managed with trapping the State will have desperate Coho habitat managers, millions in damages to its own infrastructure and millions more paid damages after lawsuits from private property owners.
:yeah:
I was in kodiak a couple years ago and got asked if i wanted to spend some time on a river trapping beaver.They had totally blocked the river off so the salmon could not go up.They figured if it didn't get opened up that it would kill off that salmon run.
I was leaving town so couldn't do it and never heard what happened.
Just a example of no trapping the amount of help they do for the salmon runs.
I'd like to know what huge benefits to the salmon they think they will get in oregon.

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Re: Proposal to stop beaver trapping in OR
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2020, 10:20:52 PM »
This idea is uninformed virtue signaloing.  BLUF (Bottom Line Up Front) beaver have to be managed to some extent wherever they are. Trapping is the most effective way to manage beaver.  Specific to this plea -  Coho Salmon habitat restoration managers end up having to trap beaver very often. They spend thousands planting willow and other favorite beaver food to provide shaded water etc. for Coho.  Then they are surprised when beaver move in and build dams flooding their project (submerging and killing other plantings) and the neighboring properties they promised wouldn't get flooded.  Beaver also flood roads and railroads which go through public lands and damage road beds. Every year there will be more beaver and every year beaver will need to be trapped.  If the beaver are not managed with trapping the State will have desperate Coho habitat managers, millions in damages to its own infrastructure and millions more paid damages after lawsuits from private property owners.
:yeah: 

I was in kodiak a couple years ago and got asked if i wanted to spend some time on a river trapping beaver.They had totally blocked the river off so the salmon could not go up.They figured if it didn't get opened up that it would kill off that salmon run.
I was leaving town so couldn't do it and never heard what happened.
Just a example of no trapping the amount of help they do for the salmon runs.
I'd like to know what huge benefits to the salmon they think they will get in oregon.
  :yeah: Mike Morris has seen that around here at least a couple of times too.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2020, 10:35:10 PM by UrbanTrapper »

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Re: Proposal to stop beaver trapping in OR
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2020, 10:38:05 PM »
Comment sent. Thanks for bringing this up. I was Dam close to missing my chance to say something ;). Hope my comment got in under the wire. Thanks.

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Re: Proposal to stop beaver trapping in OR
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2020, 12:19:21 AM »
Oregon trappers received a temporary victory. The Oregon Fish & Wildlife Commission voted to keep trapping regulations unchanged.
They did however leave the door open for changes next year by directing The Agency to review trap check regulations and make recommendations next January.
They also indicated their intent to create a beaver working group and define the intent of that working group next month.
Apparently they had about 12 hours of testimony on the trapping regulations. I don't know the numbers for and against but I assume from the time spent their is a lot of pressure to make the trapping regulations more restrictive.
Currently the fur trapping regulations have a 48 hour trap check but some nuisance animals such as mountain beaver, there is up to a 30 day trap check.
I would guess there will be a lot of pressure on the trap check regulations. Center for Biological Diversity seems to be leading the way with a demand of a 24 hour check. One can only hope trappers can at least keep their 48 hour check.
The beaver working group is anybody's guess what that will amount to.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2020, 11:50:13 AM by Humptulips »
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Re: Proposal to stop beaver trapping in OR
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2020, 05:46:23 AM »
So they will pull the same krap every year

 


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