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Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« on: November 20, 2020, 12:14:51 AM »
So I have been battling with myself about posting this, but I am like an excited little kid about this buck still and its gotten the better of me. And since he is at the taxi now I dont have access to him. In all reality I dont give a darn about numbers, but I just think it will be cool to know, and if I think it might make B&C minimum... Well then I will have it done officially more or less just so my son can someday tell his hunting buddies that his dad got a B&C buck, hahaha. I remember buddies in high school all bragging about their dad's animals.
I was hunting an "any deer" unit and was committed to shooting the first fork or better I saw. Well, I barely saw enough antler before I shot to know it was at least that. It wasnt till after the shot that I realized how big he was. Opposite of ground shrinkage, 3rd time thats happened to me.
Anyway, the taxi said I would probably be surprised at how much the mass will help the score in my case. All I can remember about that is between the eyeguards and the base it is about the size of my wrist if not a hair bigger. Cause I remember making that comparison several times when I still had it in my hands. Measuring around my wrist that would make his bases at least 7" around. Other than that I have a little bit of memory of the size of things from when I was fondling his rack.... (dont have too much fun with that statement guys, haha)
Based off of all that and these few pictures holding a tape up to it, I have a rough idea of where I think he might land. Gross might break the B&C minimum, but deductions would probably bring it down below it. Especially the difference between the G2s.
But there are a lot of guys on here that are better at this than me.
What do you think he will score? Gross? Net?
No matter the number, I still consider this a blacktail that if I never come close to topping I will never complain. I personally consider this guy a once in a lifetime blacktail for me.
Thanks!

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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2020, 05:18:56 AM »
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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2020, 05:34:33 AM »
Not having the back fork often  trounces your score.  You generally lose a bunch on the mass measurement, And  you are lacking two major score contributors.   Then the weak back tine follows up with a blow to the chin.  As your number is as only good as your weakest measurement. 

I love the mass.   Score isnít everything.  Cool buck!

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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2020, 05:40:41 AM »
I wouldn't be concerned myself about what he scores. Its a very nice buck. Not a book buck but a nice one just the same. People get too wrapped up in scores instead of just being happy with the animal and meat. :twocents:

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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2020, 06:00:31 AM »
Eyeguards AND a double throat patch. What a beauty!

   Bone is spot on. A 3 point BT or muley that makes BC is going to be an incredible deer. As in he wouldn't look real.  Similar to a 5 point elk.

If throwing out guesses for kicks. I would say 110ish.

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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2020, 07:26:44 AM »
Gonna bleed over from a different thread here but the OP didn't ask for anyone's personal beliefs or opinions on the scoring ani.als. he asked what we think his buck will score.

To the OP, congrats on a great buck (for a blacktail :chuckle:).
I'm not really versed on BT head dimensions but id say that buck is somewhere around that 115-118" gross mark. 17" mass a side, 17" mains, 14" spread credit. Right side 1.5, 9, 7.  Left side 1.5, 7, 7. 

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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2020, 07:45:58 AM »
A solid 3x3 with eyeguards will make P&Y minimum all day, but is extremely difficult to make B&C minimum. Usually you need a good 4x4 with eyeguards to make B&C. Regardless itís an awesome buck that you should be extremely proud of. I will say 110-115Ē

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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2020, 07:49:38 AM »
A solid 3x3 with eyeguards will make P&Y minimum all day, but is extremely difficult to make B&C minimum. Usually you need a good 4x4 with eyeguards to make B&C. Regardless itís an awesome buck that you should be extremely proud of. I will say 110-115Ē
fyi pope and young is for animals taken with archery equipment. This deer looks to have been taken with a rifle.   
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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2020, 07:52:38 AM »
A solid 3x3 with eyeguards will make P&Y minimum all day, but is extremely difficult to make B&C minimum. Usually you need a good 4x4 with eyeguards to make B&C. Regardless itís an awesome buck that you should be extremely proud of. I will say 110-115Ē
fyi pope and young is for animals taken with archery equipment. This deer looks to have been taken with a rifle.   

Understood, I was just mentioning for reference that a rifle hunter should be aware that 3x3 blacktail will almost never make book, for an archery hunter it's more likely. I've taken several 3x3's and 4x3's with archery that gross well but either barely meet the mark or fall short for P&Y.

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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2020, 08:04:03 AM »
Ah gotcha. You are correct.  :tup:
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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2020, 04:43:44 PM »
Closest to book three that I can think of seeing.  Iíve seen three three points that I remember being very memorable.   As much as an eyeball pop pin, jaw dropper this guy is, (yes I know he is a Muley), he probably would still fall short.


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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2020, 04:50:31 PM »
Closest to book three that I can think of seeing.  Iíve seen three three points that I remember being very memorable.   As much as an eyeball pop pin, jaw dropper this guy is, (yes I know he is a Muley), he probably would still fall short.



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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2020, 04:57:24 PM »
Blacktail at 126 and change net, west of I-5. Technically a 4x5 due to eye guards. Minimal deductions.

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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2020, 05:15:05 PM »
As for score, an extremely hard thing to do with photos, perception, etc. but Iíd hit him a touch over the 100 mark.  Guessing roughly 30 inches of mass, 14 spread credit, 29inches a side.  102 gross. 

I have measured very few blackies. 

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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2020, 05:25:00 PM »
That is a gorgeous three point Doug!! :tup:

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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2020, 05:56:22 PM »
I wouldn't be concerned myself about what he scores. Its a very nice buck. Not a book buck but a nice one just the same. People get too wrapped up in scores instead of just being happy with the animal and meat. :twocents:

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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2020, 06:53:11 PM »
Really great deer, without that 4th point you miss points, Iíd say 114 ish. Love those eye guards, I love me some eye guards!!!  Congrats!
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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2020, 08:00:05 PM »
Pretty animal.  But as for score, I'd guess 100-105. I'm basing that off all the Sitka Blacktails I've seen entered in the big buck contest in Kodiak when I lived there. Your buck looks very similar to a lot of the big three points I've seen there. The tines need to be longer to hit 110.  At the time I lived in Kodiak, the Sitka record was 118 and change and it took a nice 4x4 to hit 112 - 115 net.
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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2020, 09:18:32 AM »
Thanks everyone for the input and all. And trust me, at the end of the day I couldn't give half an Inslee about score. Haha, it's all just for kicks for me in that regard. I am just so giddy about this buck in general that I caved and wanted to get some more opinions for my curiosity. I am so beyond happy with this deer. I have a pretty simple "bucket list" when it comes to hunting for my life. 1 respectable buck whitetail and muley. 1 exceptional blacktail cause they are the main obsession in the hunting world. And 1 respectable bull elk (currently at the taxi from the 2019 season).  And this buck for me goes miles beyond what I would have counted towards my bucket list haha.

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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2020, 10:27:14 AM »
He's a great buck. 

I'd be giddy too.

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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2021, 10:13:30 PM »
So I got him back. Posted as another thread with pictures.
I measured him out a few times and give or take a few eighths I come up with about 125" gross and 120" net.
Since the sportsman's show seems to be happening this year, I am curious about taking it in to the head & horns booth or whatever to have them score it.
Anyone done that? Do I just stroll through the door with it in hand and take it to the booth or do I have to do something else?
Dont know if I will. Just thought it would be cool.

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Re: Another what do you think he'll score thread, Blacktail
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2021, 10:27:11 PM »
Nice buck!  I was going to guess 114

Yeah Iíve done it a few times all you have to do is take it into the show and go to the s scorers table and you fill out a page with some info like name, date of kill, unit ect... 

The you leave it and they used to give you a pass to get back in to pick it up. Not sure if they still do that or not.
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