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Re: Locked Out by Muckleshoots
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2020, 04:21:55 PM »
How many miles before the slide, and how much of that land is forest service land?

It's about four miles from the gate to the lowest washout. Just below the washout (0.5 miles?), you can see the 7012 splits to the right. A gate there closing the washed-out section of 7010 is a cost-effective solution. Gating all of these roads off down at the Greenwater River is the current "solution". To answer the second question regarding the extent of tribal ownership, I've included an image which shows most of that land is USFS.

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Re: Locked Out by Muckleshoots
« Reply #46 on: November 23, 2020, 06:10:16 PM »
I agree, Iím done watching and putting up with this reverse racism bs in this country on all fronts. Iíll yank the whole CS out. At the rate the FS fixes things it will take two years before itís replaced. Look at the 7030, instead of fixing the culvert in a few man hours they are letting the creek completely erode and ruin the road. Meanwhile thereís a half dozen worthless POS employees down at the headquarters selling maps and Christmas tree permits and munching on granola instead of doing something productive

Iím with this guy, yank the CS out!

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Re: Locked Out by Muckleshoots
« Reply #47 on: November 23, 2020, 07:31:55 PM »
I agree, Iím done watching and putting up with this reverse racism bs in this country on all fronts. Iíll yank the whole CS out. At the rate the FS fixes things it will take two years before itís replaced. Look at the 7030, instead of fixing the culvert in a few man hours they are letting the creek completely erode and ruin the road. Meanwhile thereís a half dozen worthless POS employees down at the headquarters selling maps and Christmas tree permits and munching on granola instead of doing something productive

Iím with this guy, yank the CS out!
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Re: Locked Out by Muckleshoots
« Reply #48 on: November 24, 2020, 06:22:03 AM »
Just so everyone knows promoting illegal activities is against forum rules.  Tearing out FS gates and cutting locks is illegal. 
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Re: Locked Out by Muckleshoots
« Reply #49 on: November 24, 2020, 06:28:10 AM »
 :yeah: Also isn't it a federal crime to destroy FS gates or locks, that means going to federal court if you get caught?
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Re: Locked Out by Muckleshoots
« Reply #50 on: November 24, 2020, 06:47:31 AM »
Like lewy said, it just gets old. Tired of this one sided BS, it always ends up a chit show I know but how the F are we to get along when others shove it in our face because they can and nobody says NO.  These comments I'm sure are mostly hot air, but living life the way we have been told the past year, it gets old and only takes a spark to speak our minds.  Will gates get ripped out, prob not.  If we did what we wanted to do, some of us would be in jail.  But when a certain group shove this bs in our face, yeah, I would have absolutely stuck a tooth pick in that lock, at least it would have made them cut them selves out. At least some inconvenience for their arrogance.  Just tired of this
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Re: Locked Out by Muckleshoots
« Reply #51 on: November 24, 2020, 08:00:16 AM »
Just so everyone knows promoting illegal activities is against forum rules.  Tearing out FS gates and cutting locks is illegal.
Do you know it's a USFS gate? What type of locks are on it? I would call the USFS and ask who put the gate up.

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Re: Locked Out by Muckleshoots
« Reply #52 on: November 24, 2020, 08:10:48 AM »
I'm born and raised in Enumclaw.  I used to buy that WR pass regularly. Haven't hunted it in 7 years or so.  There was two years in a row where Hancock shut down muzzleloader season and opened up for modern firearm.  That was the final straw for me.  Hunting anywhere near home is a constant fight to get away from the crowds, politics, and over-regulation of land.

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Re: Locked Out by Muckleshoots
« Reply #53 on: November 24, 2020, 08:28:36 AM »
I'm born and raised in Enumclaw.  I used to buy that WR pass regularly. Haven't hunted it in 7 years or so.  There was two years in a row where Hancock shut down muzzleloader season and opened up for modern firearm.  That was the final straw for me.  Hunting anywhere near home is a constant fight to get away from the crowds, politics, and over-regulation of land.

It gets pretty frustrating when you can't hunt close to home.  Everything seems to be pay to play these days. I grew up hunting Greenwater and the surrounding areas of Enumclaw.  I feel sorry for our kids that can't enjoy what we once used to.  I understand some of it, If it were my land and people were dumping garbage, I would think of closing gates too.  But to close it just because they can seems assinine.

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Re: Locked Out by Muckleshoots
« Reply #54 on: November 24, 2020, 08:30:33 AM »
I'm born and raised in Enumclaw.  I used to buy that WR pass regularly. Haven't hunted it in 7 years or so.  There was two years in a row where Hancock shut down muzzleloader season and opened up for modern firearm.  That was the final straw for me.  Hunting anywhere near home is a constant fight to get away from the crowds, politics, and over-regulation of land.

It gets pretty frustrating when you can't hunt close to home.  Everything seems to be pay to play these days. I grew up hunting Greenwater and the surrounding areas of Enumclaw.  I feel sorry for our kids that can't enjoy what we once used to.  I understand some of it, If it were my land and people were dumping garbage, I would think of closing gates too.  But to close it just because they can seems assinine.

I don't mind paying at all.  I'll gladly pay a fee.  I just don't like being locked out so one user group can have a better hunting experience when we all paid the same price.

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Re: Locked Out by Muckleshoots
« Reply #55 on: November 24, 2020, 08:31:13 AM »
Just so everyone knows promoting illegal activities is against forum rules.  Tearing out FS gates and cutting locks is illegal. 
Only if you get caught :chuckle:

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Re: Locked Out by Muckleshoots
« Reply #56 on: November 24, 2020, 10:51:13 AM »
I'm sure I have the key, lets tank trap the *censored* and be done with it
go ahead on er.

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Re: Locked Out by Muckleshoots
« Reply #57 on: November 24, 2020, 10:53:40 AM »
Elbe hills are locked out under the disguise of a escapement area, 6 tribes have keys.
go ahead on er.

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Re: Locked Out by Muckleshoots
« Reply #58 on: November 24, 2020, 10:59:17 AM »
Elbe hills are locked out under the disguise of a escapement area, 6 tribes have keys.

I have spent a ton of time (year round) up there over the past 12 years and never seen anyone go in the seasonal gates in elbe hills besides disabled hunters.

Do tribes get keys to all gates on public land?

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Re: Locked Out by Muckleshoots
« Reply #59 on: November 24, 2020, 11:07:28 AM »
Elbe hills are locked out under the disguise of a escapement area, 6 tribes have keys.

I have spent a ton of time (year round) up there over the past 12 years and never seen anyone go in the seasonal gates in elbe hills besides disabled hunters.

Do tribes get keys to all gates on public land?
we need to go on a field trip then!! we logged all winter up there and it was non stop after the regular season, as well as during
go ahead on er.

 


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