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Re: From a two stroke to a four stroke
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2020, 05:21:34 AM »
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Re: From a two stroke to a four stroke
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2020, 06:43:39 AM »
Any Merc engines from the early 2000's out there? The oil injection system was bulletproof, loved mine. Was an easy keeper. Hope you find an engine that meets your needs!
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Re: From a two stroke to a four stroke
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2020, 02:13:58 AM »
Holy crap,a 70hp Yamaha 9400 bucks,controls 600 and prop couple hundred, labor,Wow! That's in spokane.still searching

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Re: From a two stroke to a four stroke
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2020, 07:14:18 AM »
Call jacobsen's marine see what they quote.
Definitely on the high side. Heck you can get yami controls for 300-350 on line.


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Re: From a two stroke to a four stroke
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2020, 08:21:15 AM »
Crazy price, it would be worth it to jump on this side of the mountains where you have more volume dealers.

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Re: From a two stroke to a four stroke
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2020, 08:26:57 AM »
Cascade Marina in Moses Lake or Bob Feil in Wenatchee quotes on Mercury? Would a Merc save you any $$? Are Mercs really that much worse than a Yamaha?
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Re: From a two stroke to a four stroke
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2020, 08:29:19 AM »
I have a 2016 Merc 90 CT, best engine I have ever owned.  I have it bluetooth to my phone and the app gives me all the instant readouts I don't need but like to look at as well as storing the maintenance and prompting at the right intervals.  Great power, easy start, runs like perfect.

I don't think they make a 70 though, looks like they jump from 60 to 75.

Honestly, I think the big names probably all make great engines today.

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Re: From a two stroke to a four stroke
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2020, 07:05:06 PM »
I'm checking places out,lots of folks are gone right now.

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Re: From a two stroke to a four stroke
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2020, 07:30:32 PM »
Top dollar for yams if you can get them. Thought they were on backorder because of demand.  :twocents:😉🥃🇺🇸
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Re: From a two stroke to a four stroke
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2020, 09:32:13 PM »
I have a 2016 Merc 90 CT, best engine I have ever owned.  I have it bluetooth to my phone and the app gives me all the instant readouts I don't need but like to look at as well as storing the maintenance and prompting at the right intervals.  Great power, easy start, runs like perfect.

I don't think they make a 70 though, looks like they jump from 60 to 75.

Honestly, I think the big names probably all make great engines today.

Yeah, and I think 75 is just a detuned 90 so the weight to HP ratio isn’t great. At least a few years ago when I last looked for an engine in that range the Yamaha was the only one that filled the “relatively light” 70 HP niche. Everything else was a heavy detuned 90. And at that point you might as well just go with a 90.

I agree all the big brands make good outboards now. I shop based on weight rather than brand loyalty these days.

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Re: From a two stroke to a four stroke
« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2020, 03:31:23 AM »
Top dollar for yams if you can get them. Thought they were on backorder because of demand.  :twocents:😉🥃🇺🇸
they are,one dealer said none in country right. Now

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Re: From a two stroke to a four stroke
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2020, 03:33:32 AM »
I have a 2016 Merc 90 CT, best engine I have ever owned.  I have it bluetooth to my phone and the app gives me all the instant readouts I don't need but like to look at as well as storing the maintenance and prompting at the right intervals.  Great power, easy start, runs like perfect.

I don't think they make a 70 though, looks like they jump from 60 to 75.

Honestly, I think the big names probably all make great engines today.

Yeah, and I think 75 is just a detuned 90 so the weight to HP ratio isn’t great. At least a few years ago when I last looked for an engine in that range the Yamaha was the only one that filled the “relatively light” 70 HP niche. Everything else was a heavy detuned 90. And at that point you might as well just go with a 90.

I agree all the big brands make good outboards now. I shop based on weight rather than brand loyalty these days.
70 Yamaha is 100lbs lighter than honda,if I buy a new motor Yamaha will be the one I purchase. Weight is paramount to me

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Re: From a two stroke to a four stroke
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2020, 05:56:03 PM »
Having any luck rasbo? 😉🥃🇺🇸
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Re: From a two stroke to a four stroke
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2020, 11:09:33 AM »
Having any luck rasbo? 😉🥃🇺🇸
not yet,but I'm liking Clark marine in colville so far

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Re: From a two stroke to a four stroke
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2020, 12:54:59 PM »
Rasbo howdy, hope your doing well. 

   Do some searching if you haven't already for power comparisons between the motors, even down to the year for any given model.  Not only are there weight differences , but a 70 hp from one company may not actually have as much power as one from another.  There is, or at least their used to be some wide ranging margins on hp ratings.  One could actually be under by 10% or so while another could be over by the same amount.  I have been out of the Marine Industry for quite a while, but I wouldn't doubt that is still the case.  Hell it even happens inside the same brand.  A two stroke vs a 4 that both are stated as the same hp could vary too from inside the same company. 

With all that is available online these days, there has got to be someone that has done the head to head comparisons.  Maybe even Consumer Reports  or more likely  Boat Test (assuming they are still in publication).

Eric
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