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Author Topic: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?  (Read 95422 times)

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Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« on: January 01, 2021, 11:37:09 AM »
I thought I saw a reference to a possible rule change for allowing scopes on muzzleloaders in 2021. Is this real and where can I find the draft language? Thanks, 253shotgunner
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2021, 11:45:19 AM »
I hope not, that would push a lot more guys into muzzleloading due to the better and longer seasons.  :twocents:
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2021, 11:57:55 AM »
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2021, 12:15:15 PM »
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2021, 12:21:16 PM »
Bob33 thanks! Now we know the proposed change is for 1x scopes and WDFW is against scopes with magnification.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2021, 12:27:29 PM by 253shotgunner »
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2021, 12:58:19 PM »
A 1X scope would really help my old eyes. 

It's frustrating trying to shoot iron sights these days. 

In my case, what was easy to see 10 years ago is now a blur.  I simply cant focus on sights AND target.   

I get both sides, but in my case I'd put a 1X scope on asap when legal. 
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2021, 01:05:53 PM »
A 1X scope would really help my old eyes. 

It's frustrating trying to shoot iron sights these days. 

In my case, what was easy to see 19 years ago is now a blur.  I simply cant foxis on sights AND target.   

I get both sides, but in my case I'd put a 1X scooe on asap when legal.

Ive always been against tech increases for supposed primitive weapons seasons, but I cant deny the idea of a 1x focusable scope would be something Id not pass on. 

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2021, 01:49:07 PM »
A 1X scope would really help my old eyes. 

It's frustrating trying to shoot iron sights these days. 

In my case, what was easy to see 10 years ago is now a blur.  I simply cant focus on sights AND target.   

I get both sides, but in my case I'd put a 1X scope on asap when legal.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2021, 02:15:27 PM »
But who makes a 1x scope that does not have any electronics in it? I do not see much.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2021, 02:18:45 PM »
And people in Washington wonder why our seasons suck, and the game is dwindling.
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2021, 02:19:02 PM »
But who makes a 1x scope that does not have any electronics in it? I do not see much.

Looks like maybe vortex and Thompson center make one (I just googled it and they were the first two results).

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2021, 02:20:03 PM »
And people in Washington wonder why our seasons suck, and the game is dwindling.

Not because of a 1X scope being allowed on a muzzleloader...

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2021, 02:25:39 PM »
Not sure a 1X scope would be any better for accuracy over an iron peep site setup at reasonable ML distances? I really donít know, just started into ML recently.
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2021, 02:28:32 PM »
A 1X scope would really help my old eyes. 

It's frustrating trying to shoot iron sights these days. 

In my case, what was easy to see 10 years ago is now a blur.  I simply cant focus on sights AND target.   

I get both sides, but in my case I'd put a 1X scope on asap when legal.
This is what i heard was the reasoning. I belive something similar came up for bow hunters... something about how all you guys are getting old and need cheater and such to see.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2021, 02:31:06 PM »
Death by a thousand cuts.
Inlines, waterproof primers, scopes- it all adds up.

People on this site love to bag on Seattle politics- you get what you vote for. These game regs are the exact same thing. If you want a PRIMITIVE weapon season- keep it PRIMITIVE. But no, everybody wants to cheat a little bit and make it just a bit easier or more comfortable.

Don't complain with the season reductions, permit reductions, and lack of opportunities. IT will be coming.
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