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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #330 on: December 03, 2021, 11:49:36 AM »
Any word on how the meeting is going as far as spring bear discussion?

We had some great articulate comments (despite then being labeled personal attacks), and a guy talking about bullfrogs which was entertaining.

We are getting noticed, we must continue to pressure them.

I noticed the same thing labeling them as personal attacks. Guess they don't know the difference between facts and opinions.

Of course Lorna Smith gave the same regurgitated response stating its "my opinion" in her rebuttal to all the criticism she is receiving. The fact is she will not change her position either way. She is anti predator hunting and anti hunting overall. Her responses to yesterday's meeting on the Blue Mountain elk population and comment about why they are looking at removing lions instead of reducing harvest opportunities should reaffirm that. She's a cancer that will not go away unless we keep at it until she's removed.  :twocents:

I was wondering where all the “personal attacks” were…quoting a persons words and calling out their vote isn’t a personal attack.

About the blues…you’re 100 right.

Take out one cougar you save what…40 elk in a year? Cut out one hunter you lose money and might gain one elk, maybe.
We must continue this pressure and not let her get confirmed.

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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #331 on: December 03, 2021, 11:51:47 AM »
"Personal attacks" are removed from consideration?

Quite the tatic, labeling everyone they disagree with as Personal attacks

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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #332 on: December 03, 2021, 11:52:01 AM »
Smith responded to Boze’s email… the commission should be a broad range of folks… but when a tribal biologist/tribal member comes on and says support the bear hunt for biological and traditional reasons… then Smith calls spring bear hunting unethical, I laughed out loud. I think she may find herself on shaker ground than she thinks.
People get offended at nothing at all. So, speak your mind and be unapologetic.

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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #333 on: December 03, 2021, 12:00:40 PM »
Yes, to what the last couple writers said.

There was a comment by the guy in charge of the Public Comments period that if you were on the call and did not get an opportunity to speak, he encourage those people to write in and that they would be sure to read the comments.

I was on the call for 1+ hour did not get called.

But after I did send in my comments.

Thanks to all who were on the call.



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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #334 on: December 03, 2021, 12:13:33 PM »
not sure what good it'll do but we need to hammer Inslee's office and the senate natural resource committee members for breaking the law on their commission appointments. RCW 77.04.040 stats that the Governor shall seek to maintain a balance reflecting all aspects of fish and wildlife, including representation recommended by organized groups representing sport fishers, commercial fishers, hunters, private landowners, environmentalists. Right now the commission is as we know way out of balance. I have sent another round of emails to co-chair Jesse Solomon and my Senator Christine Rofles. I encourage everyone to send complaints to:
 
jesse.salomon@leg.wa.gov
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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #335 on: December 03, 2021, 12:47:28 PM »
not sure if this has been mentioned (or how effective it would be), but any individual or organization can create a petition to repeal or amend any state administrative rule:

https://ofm.wa.gov/sites/default/files/public/legacy/reports/petition.pdf

they are required by law to respond to each petition within 60 days. if your petition is denied by wdfw, you can first apply for review of the rule by the joint administrative rules review committee under RCW 34.05.655 (these folks - https://ballotpedia.org/Joint_Administrative_Rules_Review_Committee,_Washington_State_Legislature), and then you can appeal directly to the governor (just to annoy folks in his office, and/or bring the response to the media/online). maybe it's fantasyland, but what if all the hunters who signed the .org petition, also submitted individual petition forms, and appealed to the governor?

i for one will be filling this out to the best of my ability and submitting to wdfw. we need to make more noise.

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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #336 on: December 03, 2021, 08:53:25 PM »
https://www.themeateater.com/conservation/wildlife-management/spring-bear-hunts-cancelled-in-washington-state

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Readers can also contact the WDFW commission directly via email, at commission@dfw.wa.gov, or by phone at 360-902-2267.

There is also a formal petition form on WDFW’s website for anyone seeking to repeal a state administrative rule. According to Commissioner Thorburn, all such petitions must be addressed by the committee.

“Our rules can be petitioned,” she said. “I don’t know if it could happen fast enough, but there’s a whole process and we have to respond to a rule petition. I think it’s a 60-day turnaround. That’s a process that I haven’t seen anybody consider yet.”

@Hunter4Life

Is there any way this petition process can be used regarding the points you made in your last post?

Another point of contention for me, these controversial votes seem to occur when hunters are busy with hunting season!

Hello Bearpaw. 

Absolutely we can use the petition on the points I made.  I think there was someone pushing the Commission's buttons, I am not at liberty to say any more than that, but what there is no doubt is that Larry Carpenter stabbed us in the back.  He is the villain.  At today's Commission's meeting they re-elected him as Commission Chair, this is after he ran for Mount Vernon City Council in 2021, a position, if he would have won, he would have had to resign his Commission seat.  Am I not the only one who thinks there is something rotten in Denmark?  They remove Barbara Baker as Vice Chair and elect Molly Linville, a Commissioner who flip flops as much as Mitt Romney.  What gives?  Secret nominations for Commission Chair and Vice Chair.  The pro-hunting Commissioners give in with virtually no objection.  WTF?!

Let's draft something.
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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #337 on: December 03, 2021, 09:13:23 PM »
I'll tell you guys a secret.
If you want to help hunting across this state.....
Take somebody hunting that's never been before.
Way more powerful than dealing with this commission.
Draft it up
Whining till where blue in the face.
If everybody on this site was to recruit one hunter a year ,we would be so much better off right now.
Two birds in the Bush is always better than one in the hand-that way you can always go to the Bush and hunt another day .conservation=Better hunting.
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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #338 on: December 03, 2021, 09:29:19 PM »
I’ll make it a job to kill 2 fall bears this year since spring seasons cancelled. I’ve never been motivated for 2 until now.


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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #339 on: December 03, 2021, 11:54:56 PM »
I’ll make it a job to kill 2 fall bears this year since spring seasons cancelled. I’ve never been motivated for 2 until now.


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I have been also thinking about at least harvest one.
I mean I go check clearcuts every year,but I'm gonna try to get a little more die hard this year.
Two birds in the Bush is always better than one in the hand-that way you can always go to the Bush and hunt another day .conservation=Better hunting.
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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #340 on: December 04, 2021, 01:02:00 AM »
If everybody on this site was to recruit one hunter a year ,we would be so much better off right now.

 :yeah: BINGO! A square hit right there, you nailed it!
Not to say we don't need to be proactive, but hunter recruitment is probably the most serious issue we face!
Americans are systematically advocating, legislating, and voting away each others rights. Support all user groups & quit losing opportunity!

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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #341 on: December 04, 2021, 01:41:00 AM »
If everybody on this site was to recruit one hunter a year ,we would be so much better off right now.

 :yeah: BINGO! A square hit right there, you nailed it!
Not to say we don't need to be proactive, but hunter recruitment is probably the most serious issue we face!
I Agree Alot of proactive.
Recruitment would help us out A lot in the future.
Two birds in the Bush is always better than one in the hand-that way you can always go to the Bush and hunt another day .conservation=Better hunting.
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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #342 on: December 04, 2021, 11:05:11 AM »
I’ll make it a job to kill 2 fall bears this year since spring seasons cancelled. I’ve never been motivated for 2 until now.


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Why stop at 2?  :peep:
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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #343 on: December 04, 2021, 11:09:17 AM »
Do both: recruit and follow/complain/make noise on commission issues.

They said it yesterday, the they’re a public entity and have to listen to the public ie the loudest crowd gets noticed.

Keep up this pressure.

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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #344 on: December 04, 2021, 12:07:38 PM »
I’ll make it a job to kill 2 fall bears this year since spring seasons cancelled. I’ve never been motivated for 2 until now.


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Why stop at 2?  :peep: same here,its game on now!
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