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The whole state will suffer from how klickitat is managing cougars. Antis have a lot of power in the legislature.
Someone show me where there are any substaniated claims that Klickitatt county acted outside the guidlelines of public saftey. Even WDFW testied that the numbers where substantially the same between county operations and WDFW operations. The county just acted faster. If the state did there job without caving to liberal pressure this would not be an issue.
The bill did not move out of committee in House by the end of deadline this past week. That should be end of it. Hopefully. Until next year.
Quote from: bearpaw on January 25, 2022, 12:49:23 PMQuote from: bigtex on January 25, 2022, 12:44:31 PMQuote from: bearpaw on January 25, 2022, 12:26:54 PMQuote from: bigtex on January 25, 2022, 12:21:20 PMThe original bill is significantly different than the substitute bill.The article with Songer's quotes were regarding the original bill. The original bill would've outright banned county involvement. The substitute bill allows for county involvement after WDFW authorizes such assistance. How it would go is Klickitat County (or any county) responds to a cougar call, they call WDFW (which they typically do anyways) and WDFW says go ahead and use dogs to find the cougar.That wouldn't be so bad, but typically, WDFW is probably more likely to avoid killing any predator! The bill sucks!The bill has nothing to do with killing a predator, it's simply can counties utilize their own dog teams. Even if the original bill were to pass (which doesn't matter now since that bill is essentially gone) if a deputy responded to a cougar attack and they observed the cougar they could shoot it on sight, they just couldn't call out a county dog team.It is highly likely the substitute bill was pass and become law. But in reality I doubt it will change anything since those calls to WDFW were in almost all cases already being made.That's simply not true, it's all about stopping predators from being killed, that's why they are doing this legislation, so counties can't manage problem cats!Obviously hound teams are vital to finding problem cats and if you take away a hound team your chances of finding the cat decrease almost entirely. However, the bill simply deals with can counties utilize their own dog teams, it does not prohibit counties from killing cougars.
Quote from: bigtex on January 25, 2022, 12:44:31 PMQuote from: bearpaw on January 25, 2022, 12:26:54 PMQuote from: bigtex on January 25, 2022, 12:21:20 PMThe original bill is significantly different than the substitute bill.The article with Songer's quotes were regarding the original bill. The original bill would've outright banned county involvement. The substitute bill allows for county involvement after WDFW authorizes such assistance. How it would go is Klickitat County (or any county) responds to a cougar call, they call WDFW (which they typically do anyways) and WDFW says go ahead and use dogs to find the cougar.That wouldn't be so bad, but typically, WDFW is probably more likely to avoid killing any predator! The bill sucks!The bill has nothing to do with killing a predator, it's simply can counties utilize their own dog teams. Even if the original bill were to pass (which doesn't matter now since that bill is essentially gone) if a deputy responded to a cougar attack and they observed the cougar they could shoot it on sight, they just couldn't call out a county dog team.It is highly likely the substitute bill was pass and become law. But in reality I doubt it will change anything since those calls to WDFW were in almost all cases already being made.That's simply not true, it's all about stopping predators from being killed, that's why they are doing this legislation, so counties can't manage problem cats!
Quote from: bearpaw on January 25, 2022, 12:26:54 PMQuote from: bigtex on January 25, 2022, 12:21:20 PMThe original bill is significantly different than the substitute bill.The article with Songer's quotes were regarding the original bill. The original bill would've outright banned county involvement. The substitute bill allows for county involvement after WDFW authorizes such assistance. How it would go is Klickitat County (or any county) responds to a cougar call, they call WDFW (which they typically do anyways) and WDFW says go ahead and use dogs to find the cougar.That wouldn't be so bad, but typically, WDFW is probably more likely to avoid killing any predator! The bill sucks!The bill has nothing to do with killing a predator, it's simply can counties utilize their own dog teams. Even if the original bill were to pass (which doesn't matter now since that bill is essentially gone) if a deputy responded to a cougar attack and they observed the cougar they could shoot it on sight, they just couldn't call out a county dog team.It is highly likely the substitute bill was pass and become law. But in reality I doubt it will change anything since those calls to WDFW were in almost all cases already being made.
Quote from: bigtex on January 25, 2022, 12:21:20 PMThe original bill is significantly different than the substitute bill.The article with Songer's quotes were regarding the original bill. The original bill would've outright banned county involvement. The substitute bill allows for county involvement after WDFW authorizes such assistance. How it would go is Klickitat County (or any county) responds to a cougar call, they call WDFW (which they typically do anyways) and WDFW says go ahead and use dogs to find the cougar.That wouldn't be so bad, but typically, WDFW is probably more likely to avoid killing any predator! The bill sucks!
The original bill is significantly different than the substitute bill.The article with Songer's quotes were regarding the original bill. The original bill would've outright banned county involvement. The substitute bill allows for county involvement after WDFW authorizes such assistance. How it would go is Klickitat County (or any county) responds to a cougar call, they call WDFW (which they typically do anyways) and WDFW says go ahead and use dogs to find the cougar.