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Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« on: October 29, 2023, 08:47:04 PM »
Early season muzzleloading for elk I went to my usual spot and started glassing the ridge looking for elk. The trails around the rock ledges seemed unused for an extended period of time.
 Nobody nearby said they had seen anything since June and I had to go to a different location. Well now I know why. These were shot together in the pasture of the neighboring ranch and another guy across the canyon about 2 miles away said he has game cam pics of several mature Tom's and a few youngsters. Damn it!

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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2023, 09:05:11 PM »
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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2023, 09:16:21 PM »
 Well done :tup:
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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2023, 09:35:57 PM »
How many deer is that a year. Good job!

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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2023, 10:09:32 PM »
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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2023, 10:13:46 PM »
Do you mind sharing the general location? PM is fine

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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2023, 04:45:05 AM »
Good job
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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2023, 07:21:28 AM »
I guess I didn't clarify, one of the ranchers friends and the friends daughter shot them. I was not there. Either way it's a great job on them and hopefully it makes a difference in the local herd populations. This is another one shot just North of the same area last year I think it was.200lbs
« Last Edit: October 30, 2023, 07:48:07 AM by LDennis24 »

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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2023, 02:56:09 PM »
Yep, if you know the folks, tell them congratulations and thank you. For folks who think predators are not problem number 1 for our herds. Well, think again. The estimate of 3000 cats in this state is absurd!

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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2023, 04:54:01 PM »
Yep, if you know the folks, tell them congratulations and thank you. For folks who think predators are not problem number 1 for our herds. Well, think again. The estimate of 3000 cats in this state is absurd!

I already complained about this elsewhere, but I was talking to one of the loggers in the snoqualmie tree farm, and he said the biologist estimates that there are 400 cougars just in the tree farm.  In my ten or so days in there looking for deer, I saw 4 cougars jump across logging roads while driving, and exactly 2 bucks.  That's bonkers...

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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2023, 06:36:11 PM »
Nice cats.
I want to go cat hunting.

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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2023, 07:05:08 PM »
I never put any effort into hunting cats but after the last couple years I think it's time to start. I just don't know that I want to eat one.  :dunno:

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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2023, 07:51:09 PM »
I never put any effort into hunting cats but after the last couple years I think it's time to start. I just don't know that I want to eat one.  :dunno:
You kill.one I'd happily take the meat off of your hands. They are great table fare.

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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2023, 07:56:30 PM »
I never put any effort into hunting cats but after the last couple years I think it's time to start. I just don't know that I want to eat one.  :dunno:
You kill.one I'd happily take the meat off of your hands. They are great table fare.

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« Last Edit: November 20, 2023, 08:11:06 PM by MADMAX »
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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2023, 08:04:26 PM »
Way way WAY to many of those around. I wish wdfw would pull their head out
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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2023, 08:11:34 PM »
It is absolutely crazy how many of them have been shot this fall as secondary animals. There has to have been close to 50 of them shot while hunting deer or elk posted on social media this fall. There has to be way more than most feel even possible. If we had 2600 in 1996 when hound hunting stopped, to have the 300 they say we have now they clearly have the same doing the math on cougar as wolves  :bash:.

Great job by the shooters regardless of where or why it's great to have them gone!

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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2023, 06:18:28 PM »
Arent almost all the cougar quotas filled every year? the quotas are stupid low.  Doesn't matter how many people start hunting cats until they raise the quotas or SSS I guess.

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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2023, 06:59:39 PM »
Arent almost all the cougar quotas filled every year? the quotas are stupid low.  Doesn't matter how many people start hunting cats until they raise the quotas or SSS I guess.
I haven't run the numbers in a few years but when I did about half the PMUs never fulfilled their target number. Mostly westside units came up short.
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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2023, 07:39:01 PM »
Arent almost all the cougar quotas filled every year? the quotas are stupid low.  Doesn't matter how many people start hunting cats until they raise the quotas or SSS I guess.
I haven't run the numbers in a few years but when I did about half the PMUs never fulfilled their target number. Mostly westside units came up short.

I thought I remembered darn near every unit being open in the late season last year.

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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2023, 08:30:02 PM »
Not very often you see 2 cat killed at the same time. Nice!

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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2023, 05:49:44 AM »
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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2023, 01:52:48 AM »
Arent almost all the cougar quotas filled every year? the quotas are stupid low.  Doesn't matter how many people start hunting cats until they raise the quotas or SSS I guess.
I haven't run the numbers in a few years but when I did about half the PMUs never fulfilled their target number. Mostly westside units came up short.

I thought I remembered darn near every unit being open in the late season last year.

I've been watching the last few years and all areas remain open except for about 5 that will reach their quotas. 
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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2023, 07:23:18 AM »
I went empty handed on elk this year and this area still didn't have much elk sign in the late season and I believe it's because there are still more cats in there. The elk totally changed their patterns this year in that area. Hopefully they return next season.

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Re: Was wondering why my elk spot was barren...
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2023, 08:28:17 AM »
I went empty handed on elk this year and this area still didn't have much elk sign in the late season and I believe it's because there are still more cats in there. The elk totally changed their patterns this year in that area. Hopefully they return next season.

I'm gonna say you are correct. There is more cats still in your area.
The two cats in the pickup look to be younger cats.
Moma and Papa cats are still slaying ungulates.
Just a guess on my part.

 


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