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Best arrow set up
« on: March 06, 2024, 07:24:57 PM »
Hey guys I was wondering what arrow I should run for elk this year?  I have a 70lb draw weight and I have a 29.5in draw. I was thinking of issuing a 300- 350 spine with a 125grain broad head. Open for suggestions for sure let me know y’all.


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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2024, 07:47:47 PM »
Build with whatever good  quality shaft you like and shoot for a 485-525 total weight arrow. 

I run 200 up front with a 300spine shaft, 28.5 DL, 72lbs, 508 total gr.   Blows through every deer and elk I’ve shot. I like two holes.   
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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2024, 08:37:02 PM »
Heard good things about Black eagle rampage's or if you want to spend some coin Victory TKO rip's. I'm not a fan of the half in half out inserts. Seems like guy's are always saying after time they don't spin straight. I switched from carbon express to Easton 6.5 300 match grade and love them and about half the price of TKO's .Every arrow in my dozen weighed +-1 grain and they are made in USA.  Fly like darts out of my V3X at 70lbs 28.5 DL. I put 40 extra grains up front and a 100 grain shuttle t. Getting 285 fps with a total weight around 450 for 79lbs of kenetic energy. Enough to punch a mud hole in any anaimal around here  IF YOU HIT THEM IN THE RITE PLACE !!   With your #'s i'm thinking with the Easton's at least you'd prob want a 250 spine and with a 125 BH you'd be right at your wanted weight . Give courtney at lucky shot a call or call jason at riverside ask him about easton arrows and there new weave process. :tup: :tup:
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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2024, 09:34:51 PM »
Easton Axis arrows are IMO the best bang for your buck. Their HIT insert system is hard to beat. You can put an extra 50 or 75 grains up front if you want to go heavy and more FOC. Or just stick with what comes standard. They always spin true. Plus as far as I know Easton axis carbon arrows are made in the USA. Black Eagle, Victory and Gold Tips are not.

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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2024, 09:47:19 PM »
Yeah I was looking into the Easton Axis I just wasn’t sure what spine to run I’m about to get my bow tuned and I wanted a good set of arrows to paper  tune and hunt with. What I’m looking for is what was mentioned above with the two holes I need enough to punch  through and still be able to shoot at 60 yards if needed


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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2024, 09:48:39 PM »
Build with whatever good  quality shaft you like and shoot for a 485-525 total weight arrow. 

I run 200 up front with a 300spine shaft, 28.5 DL, 72lbs, 508 total gr.   Blows through every deer and elk I’ve shot. I like two holes.
I like the two holes approach as well. Do you use any inserts or just run them as standard ?


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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2024, 09:50:49 PM »
Build with whatever good  quality shaft you like and shoot for a 485-525 total weight arrow. 

I run 200 up front with a 300spine shaft, 28.5 DL, 72lbs, 508 total gr.   Blows through every deer and elk I’ve shot. I like two holes.

Ive shot 410-430 for decades and had 0 issues at 65lb draw going thru animals. Shot a moose twice at 65 yards with clean pass throughs. Todays bows with a quality arrow and good sharp head there isnt anything you cant kill in the states

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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2024, 09:56:04 PM »
Build with whatever good  quality shaft you like and shoot for a 485-525 total weight arrow. 

I run 200 up front with a 300spine shaft, 28.5 DL, 72lbs, 508 total gr.   Blows through every deer and elk I’ve shot. I like two holes.

Ive shot 410-430 for decades and had 0 issues at 65lb draw going thru animals. Shot a moose twice at 65 yards with clean pass throughs. Todays bows with a quality arrow and good sharp head there isnt anything you cant kill in the states
That what I was thinking I just didn’t want to break the bank on a 6pack of arrows  but like I mentioned above I wanna make sure I got enough punch.


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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2024, 10:50:50 PM »
300 Spine. Weight of components up front will definitely push you into that spine and you can get away with a lot more component wise and pretty much pick a total arrow weight/foc you want without much worry or issue unless you got a super high IBO speed bow.

This is also assuming you're cutting your arrows down to middle of the riser and not leaving a bunch out front. If you're going longer arrow, that might put you at 250 spine like mentioned above.

I'm at a 32" draw length and cut all mine around 30.75, without an overdraw.

I'd recommend a 5mm shaft size. Easier for components and little more forgiving tuning wise. Micro diameter needs a little more work and either have to go deep six or everything is outsert.

Hard to find a bad arrow these days from the major companies. Easton Axis is a great arrow.

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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2024, 04:57:02 AM »
Build with whatever good  quality shaft you like and shoot for a 485-525 total weight arrow. 

I run 200 up front with a 300spine shaft, 28.5 DL, 72lbs, 508 total gr.   Blows through every deer and elk I’ve shot. I like two holes.
I like the two holes approach as well. Do you use any inserts or just run them as standard ?


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I use 150hr head, 25gr insert and 25gr collar. All ironwill. 
Black eagle rampage or rip tko shafts
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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2024, 06:55:49 AM »
I'm 65 # and 29 inch draw , three years ago I went with the Easton Axis 5mm arrows in 340 spine and tipped it with a G5 Stryker V2  125
gr broadhead . Added a little weight but not to crazy and have had great results. Doesn't break the bank , fly like darts and hit harder than my old lighter setup for sure. At 70 pounds seems like ur at 300 spine or stiffer with 125 gr head but didn't look at any charts. Good luck and have a great season. 

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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2024, 06:57:18 AM »
I'm 65 # and 29 inch draw , three years ago I went with the Easton Axis 5mm arrows in 340 spine and tipped it with a G5 Stryker V2  125
gr broadhead . Added a little weight but not to crazy and have had great results. Doesn't break the bank , fly like darts and hit harder than my old lighter setup for sure. At 70 pounds seems like ur at 300 spine or stiffer with 125 gr head but didn't look at any charts. Good luck and have a great season.
You get pretty good pass through on your set up?


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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2024, 07:06:42 AM »
I shot the bull in my Avatar in 2020 hard quartering away 30 yard shot , entered left side about last rib and was stuck into the right front leg bone after full pass through long ways . Bull went down in 1 minute never leaving my sight. Only other kill was mule deer buck at 20 yards and blew right through. Happy with all with my arrow and broadhead setup.

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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2024, 07:16:32 AM »
I shot the bull in my Avatar in 2020 hard quartering away 30 yard shot , entered left side about last rib and was stuck into the right front leg bone after full pass through long ways . Bull went down in 1 minute never leaving my sight. Only other kill was mule deer buck at 20 yards and blew right through. Happy with all with my arrow and broadhead setup.
Sweet dude , I figured for deer hunting it’d pass right through I was just worried about the elk not getting enough. But that’s awesome brother.


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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2024, 07:17:57 AM »
https://www.archersadvantage.com/

If you want to plug some numbers in for different arrow configurations archers advantage is a great tool to use to figure out the best spine for length of arrows and components you are considering. It costs around 15 dollars for a subscription, well worth the money IMO.

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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2024, 08:10:46 AM »
Lastly my original arrow setup was 400 spine / 100 gr broadhead at 398 gr total weight. I wasn't happy with the performance on animals penetration wise, I knew i was too light. My new setup my total arrow weight is 460 gr with maybe 30 gr extra forward counting broadhead.  My new setup consistently is 4 to 5 inches deeper in my practice target when shooting both and surprisingly still today my point of impact didn't change out to 40 yards with the heavier arrow. I only moved the 50 yard pin very slightly and 60 also a little more. I haven't done extensive testing or copied anything I read , I just went slimmer & a little heavier with great results.

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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2024, 09:28:27 AM »
BE Spartan, 125 Evo w/bleeders. Been very happy with this combo, those D6 Evo's are beyond deadly.
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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2024, 09:49:59 AM »
Straight arrow, properly tuned bow, and SHARP broadleaf is far more important than FOC, weight, etc.  Lack of penetration is usually due to dull blades and or poor arrow flight. Dull blades tear flesh more than they cut resulting in more drag and poor bleeding.

So many folks will replace blades or sharpen blades then pull them in and out of a quiver for early and late season, get them wet on raining days, shoot them into targets at camp, etc. All those things dull blades. Hell even just leaving blades exposed to the open air will oxidize the blade edge to the point of being dull. Maintain those edges boys! Sharpen them or replace them. Replacement blades are cheap in the grand scheme of things. I'll swap blades mid week on a hunt. :twocents:
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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2024, 10:13:31 AM »
Lastly my original arrow setup was 400 spine / 100 gr broadhead at 398 gr total weight. I wasn't happy with the performance on animals penetration wise, I knew i was too light. My new setup my total arrow weight is 460 gr with maybe 30 gr extra forward counting broadhead.  My new setup consistently is 4 to 5 inches deeper in my practice target when shooting both and surprisingly still today my point of impact didn't change out to 40 yards with the heavier arrow. I only moved the 50 yard pin very slightly and 60 also a little more. I haven't done extensive testing or copied anything I read , I just went slimmer & a little heavier with great results.
So at 60 your groups are pretty consistent without having to mess with your pin too much?


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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2024, 10:14:06 AM »
Straight arrow, properly tuned bow, and SHARP broadleaf is far more important than FOC, weight, etc.  Lack of penetration is usually due to dull blades and or poor arrow flight. Dull blades tear flesh more than they cut resulting in more drag and poor bleeding.

So many folks will replace blades or sharpen blades then pull them in and out of a quiver for early and late season, get them wet on raining days, shoot them into targets at camp, etc. All those things dull blades. Hell even just leaving blades exposed to the open air will oxidize the blade edge to the point of being dull. Maintain those edges boys! Sharpen them or replace them. Replacement blades are cheap in the grand scheme of things. I'll swap blades mid week on a hunt. :twocents:
That’s 100% accurate taking the blades out of your quiver in and out definitely can full them along with just leaving them out


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Re: Best arrow set up
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2024, 04:37:50 PM »
Yes , my broadheads fly just as accurately as field points out to 60 yards . Very happy with my setup . As stated my bow is tuned, I spin test all arrows getting the best combo of arrow & broadhead possible. All the usual stuff to get prepared.

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Best arrow set up
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2024, 09:41:02 PM »
Right on. That’s the important part, making sure everything is tuned I planned on getting my bow string redone in the next week or two so I’ll be getting the tune up and I’ll probably go with a 25grain insert and a 125 grain broad idk I gotta see how it fly’s but definitely will need a stiffer spine


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