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Quote from: jrebel on December 06, 2024, 08:45:04 AMWhy do folks want short barrels on a 7 PRC? Anything less than 24" and you are leaving velocity on the table. 24-26" with 26 being preferrable in my humble opinion. The 7 prc is getting bad reviews for having anemic velocities at best.....this is partially due to overestimated velocities by Hornady factory ammo and also because all the rifle manufacturers are making these rifles with 20-22" barrels (I'm assuming because so many people hunt suppressed now days). If I'm buying a magnum rifle, I want speed.....otherwise you are better off just buying a 7-08. If I was hell bent on a 20-22" 7prc....I would be shooting light weight mono's to pick up speed. This is a double edged sword though and I guess to each their own. But I digress..... Why would anybody want 1000yd+ capability in a handy, lightweight sub 40" rifle?
Why do folks want short barrels on a 7 PRC? Anything less than 24" and you are leaving velocity on the table. 24-26" with 26 being preferrable in my humble opinion. The 7 prc is getting bad reviews for having anemic velocities at best.....this is partially due to overestimated velocities by Hornady factory ammo and also because all the rifle manufacturers are making these rifles with 20-22" barrels (I'm assuming because so many people hunt suppressed now days). If I'm buying a magnum rifle, I want speed.....otherwise you are better off just buying a 7-08. If I was hell bent on a 20-22" 7prc....I would be shooting light weight mono's to pick up speed. This is a double edged sword though and I guess to each their own. But I digress.....
Quote from: Mtnwalker on December 06, 2024, 09:52:09 AMQuote from: jrebel on December 06, 2024, 08:45:04 AMWhy do folks want short barrels on a 7 PRC? Anything less than 24" and you are leaving velocity on the table. 24-26" with 26 being preferrable in my humble opinion. The 7 prc is getting bad reviews for having anemic velocities at best.....this is partially due to overestimated velocities by Hornady factory ammo and also because all the rifle manufacturers are making these rifles with 20-22" barrels (I'm assuming because so many people hunt suppressed now days). If I'm buying a magnum rifle, I want speed.....otherwise you are better off just buying a 7-08. If I was hell bent on a 20-22" 7prc....I would be shooting light weight mono's to pick up speed. This is a double edged sword though and I guess to each their own. But I digress..... Why would anybody want 1000yd+ capability in a handy, lightweight sub 40" rifle? I get it.....but for the chambering, it is already lethargic....why handicap it more with a short barrel. If you want a short rifle for packing and you really like the 7 PRC, go with a folding chassis and keep a 26" barrel. You can do this and still have a sub 7 lbs rifle.
Haven't used either, but have had my eye on Christensen Arms Ridgeline FFT in 300 WSM. They do offer 7 PRC.I do plan on a can.Just over the $2k MSRP for the rifle.
I get it.....but for the chambering, it is already lethargic....
Quote from: jrebel on December 06, 2024, 10:01:06 AMI get it.....but for the chambering, it is already lethargic....Curious, why do you believe this and or what other .284/7mm are you comparing it to that makes you say the 7 PRC is lethargic or has anemic velocities??
Quote from: b23 on December 06, 2024, 10:44:54 AMQuote from: jrebel on December 06, 2024, 10:01:06 AMI get it.....but for the chambering, it is already lethargic....Curious, why do you believe this and or what other .284/7mm are you comparing it to that makes you say the 7 PRC is lethargic or has anemic velocities??Referencing the velocities the PRC chambering were marketed as and then in comparison the the old tried and true 7mm mag. The 7 PRC was way over hyped and has proven not to live up to those velocities with factory offerings. Now...if you reload, you can get more out of the chambering. If I was going with a PRC chambering, it would be the 300 PRC as you can push heavier bullets equally as fast as lighter bullets in the 7 PRC. I'm not at all saying the 7 PRC is a bad cartridge..... I just think it fell short of all the hype. I know there is a huge following for 7mm and the high BC bullets, but most folks don't shoot far enough for it to really matter. If you are the average shooter / hunter that limits your range to 600 yards or less (most should limit their range to 300 or less), then it really doesn't matter. Hell even at 1000 yards.......it probably doesn't matter. I just think there are better 7mm offerings....my opinion.
Quote from: jrebel on December 06, 2024, 11:17:28 AMQuote from: b23 on December 06, 2024, 10:44:54 AMQuote from: jrebel on December 06, 2024, 10:01:06 AMI get it.....but for the chambering, it is already lethargic....Curious, why do you believe this and or what other .284/7mm are you comparing it to that makes you say the 7 PRC is lethargic or has anemic velocities??Referencing the velocities the PRC chambering were marketed as and then in comparison the the old tried and true 7mm mag. The 7 PRC was way over hyped and has proven not to live up to those velocities with factory offerings. Now...if you reload, you can get more out of the chambering. If I was going with a PRC chambering, it would be the 300 PRC as you can push heavier bullets equally as fast as lighter bullets in the 7 PRC. I'm not at all saying the 7 PRC is a bad cartridge..... I just think it fell short of all the hype. I know there is a huge following for 7mm and the high BC bullets, but most folks don't shoot far enough for it to really matter. If you are the average shooter / hunter that limits your range to 600 yards or less (most should limit their range to 300 or less), then it really doesn't matter. Hell even at 1000 yards.......it probably doesn't matter. I just think there are better 7mm offerings....my opinion. I’ve seen a lot of reviews that the velocity of 7 prc is well below the published data. Specifically the Hornady ammo.
Quote from: jrebel on December 06, 2024, 08:45:04 AMWhy do folks want short barrels on a 7 PRC? Anything less than 24" and you are leaving velocity on the table. 24-26" with 26 being preferrable in my humble opinion. The 7 prc is getting bad reviews for having anemic velocities at best.....this is partially due to overestimated velocities by Hornady factory ammo and also because all the rifle manufacturers are making these rifles with 20-22" barrels (I'm assuming because so many people hunt suppressed now days). If I'm buying a magnum rifle, I want speed.....otherwise you are better off just buying a 7-08. If I was hell bent on a 20-22" 7prc....I would be shooting light weight mono's to pick up speed. This is a double edged sword though and I guess to each their own. But I digress..... You don't need a ton of velocity with the high BC bullets. 2800 is easily attainable with a 20-22" barrel with the 7PRC and the 175 ELDX ammo that is readily available. I'm getting 2960 with a 22" barrel, Nosler 175 ABLR and RL26 I just guessed at 3050 and the 139 LRX but the 175 ELDX quickly surpasses the lighter bullet in wind deflection while elevation is fairly even. I'll give up the velocity for the shorter, lighter more compact package any day. Especially shooting suppressed and hunting timber/back country. 175.0 gr. Hornady ELD-X (2841) - .284 (7mm) @ 2,800 fps139.0 gr. Barnes LRX (30295) - .284 (7mm) @ 3,050 fpsRange Velocity Time of Flight Elevation Windage(yards) (fps) (sec) (moa) (moa)0 2,800 / 3,050 0.00 / 0.00 0.0 / 0.0 0.0 / 0.0100 2,666 / 2,842 0.11 / 0.10 0.0 / 0.0 0.4 / 0.6200 2,535 / 2,644 0.23 / 0.21 -1.6 / -1.3 0.9 / 1.2300 2,408 / 2,454 0.35 / 0.33 -3.9 / -3.4 1.4 / 1.9400 2,284 / 2,272 0.48 / 0.46 -6.4 / -5.8 1.9 / 2.6500 2,165 / 2,097 0.61 / 0.59 -9.3 / -8.5 2.5 / 3.4600 2,049 / 1,931 0.75 / 0.74 -12.3 / -11.6 3.1 / 4.3700 1,936 / 1,773 0.90 / 0.91 -15.6 / -15.0 3.7 / 5.2800 1,827 / 1,625 1.06 / 1.08 -19.2 / -19.0 4.3 / 6.2