Resign?

[Russ McDonald]

When I got the email I was like wtf kind of wrinky dink email is this.  Ran it up the chain to see if was legit.  An official email came out from the agency saying that it was an legit email.  I still would not touch this whole thing with a 10' pole because it just sounds all kinds of hanky even though I am eligible for early retirement in June. 

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[Stein]

Buyouts can vary, they may or may not have a lump sum, extension of benefits and pay (severance), stock or options, or whatever your employer wants to dangle out there to get the targeted number of employees to bite.  Obviously, options and stock are off the table for gov employees.

[MADMAX]

Reminds me of the 80s when they said we’re gonna establish a new retirement system called FERS all you guys on CSRS should take it cause it’s a really good deal
No thank you. I’ll stick with CSRS
that worked.

[EnglishSetter]

Buyouts can vary, they may or may not have a lump sum, extension of benefits and pay (severance), stock or options, or whatever your employer wants to dangle out there to get the targeted number of employees to bite.  Obviously, options and stock are off the table for gov employees.

Yep.  I got a year's lump sum.  Would've preferred pay as it greatly increased my tax liability that year (mid year). 

Over 6 mos of pay to find a new job or transition to retirement. Full bennies during the transition.  I've read the expectation is 5-10% take the deal. 

You may be on the chopping block anyway as things mature.

[CarbonHunter]

I wish my outfit would offer me a buyout. I’m pretty sure my level of management is on the chopping block and since my company got purchased a year and a half ago it hasn’t been the same it used to be.

[Russ McDonald]

Reminds me of the 80s when they said we’re gonna establish a new retirement system called FERS all you guys on CSRS should take it cause it’s a really good deal
No thank you. I’ll stick with CSRS
that worked.

There aren't that many on CSRS anymore.

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[Special T]

This deal is pretty much what Elon did at Twitter. So if history is any indication of what is going to happen I would brush up on a 5min or less what you do at your job. How tangible the explanation is will likely determine the outcome.

[Russ McDonald]

I am not worried about my job.  It will be there that I am pretty confident with.

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[CarbonHunter]

This deal is pretty much what Elon did at Twitter. So if history is any indication of what is going to happen I would brush up on a 5min or less what you do at your job. How tangible the explanation is will likely determine the outcome.

That’s an easy answer if your boss asks you this. “Well Bob, since you don’t know what I do here how about you lay me off and figure that out?” 

I have one of those worthless corporate SOB’s of a boss for the last few months that I would love to say that too. I believe there was a few of these workers at twitter who said the same thing to Elon as well. And a bunch of works at twitter that weren’t doing their jobs that Elon is glad to see gone.

[bigtex]

Back to the OP..

Was speaking to someone "in the know" a few months ago. They said without a doubt the Refuge System is the public land system that is most likely to see mass closures due to reduced staffing and budgets. At least with the USFS, NPS and BLM you have large staffs (yes I know they've been reduced too) to handle some of the load.

With refuges you have in many areas maybe 5 employees working at a refuge or group of refuges. The way budgets have been for the past 5 or so years for every 2 or 3 people you lose you may only be able to replace one of them. They are at all time low for uniformed federal game wardens, there are almost as many WDFW Officers in WA as there are USFWS Officers in the entire country.

At the end of the day the refuge system is set up for one purpose, to provide habitat and protection for wildlife. All other activities are secondary....

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[Special T]

This deal is pretty much what Elon did at Twitter. So if history is any indication of what is going to happen I would brush up on a 5min or less what you do at your job. How tangible the explanation is will likely determine the outcome.

That’s an easy answer if your boss asks you this. “Well Bob, since you don’t know what I do here how about you lay me off and figure that out?” 

I have one of those worthless corporate SOB’s of a boss for the last few months that I would love to say that too. I believe there was a few of these workers at twitter who said the same thing to Elon as well. And a bunch of works at twitter that weren’t doing their jobs that Elon is glad to see gone.

I'm not sure how this is all gonna shake out but everyone is replaceable. Twitter had a hard time with the mass layoffs for about 6 months. No doubt Elon lost some good employees that got cut with the cuts. I have no doubt this will also happen  in this situation.

[Stein]

It seems like a more effective way would have been to identify functions that are not necessary rather than ATB or leaving it up to the individual employees to determine who goes.  Like any other time, when the organization get shaky, the best performers are the first to pull the cord as they have the most options.

[Naches Sportsman]

Well now that it’s officially closed, had one employee opt in for resignation and know about 7 others that took it. I expect a few of those to not be processed as they were considered “public safety” positions.

Now we lost about all of those summer time recreational positions with over 3400 people being let go. A lot of those let go used to be temporary seasonal positions but were converted to temporary to perm postions when the forest circus did away with seasonal jobs…. Lots of those people being paid less than a fast food employee were canned. Let that sit with you.

Interesting times and here for the roller coaster.

[trophyhunt]

I’m good with what Trump is doing, we need some big changes in our spending, some good people will be affected, hopefully the cream rises to the top.  But doge has to start somewhere, hopefully when they have time, they can fine tune things, but for now the tourniquet needs to be applied. 

[Mtnwalker]

It always hurts to rip the bandaid off but I think we'll be better for it in the long run, we were on an unsustainable trajectory. Hard to effectively cull a bloated behemoth like the federal government without having some unfavorable terminations along the way, you're talking millions of employees to sift through. Easy for me to say when it doesn't directly affect my employment though