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Re: bear down?
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2010, 05:40:58 PM »
I agree with Todd! The work on finding that bear shouldn't have stopped until the sun had set (at the very earliest). And when the crows help find him I would hope his skull will be tagged and the hunt ended.
I'd just like to remind everybody that it's about the hunting, not just the killing. In other words, it's about the total experience, the sport itself and the challenge involved. Bowhunting, done right, is a justifiable and honorable pursuit. Done for the wrong reasons, simply chalking up kills and seeking personal glory, it's taking away rather than giving back to a principled way of life that has to be experienced to be understood. G.StCharles

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Re: bear down?
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2010, 07:47:38 PM »
Newb to the forum but lots of time with bears.  Don't underestimate where that guy could curl up and hide.  I shot one blackie 200ish #s ( with 12 ga slug) that went 30m and it took me most of a day to find him.  He curled up in some ferns and I walked right by him three or four times because it was right along side of his established trail.
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Re: bear down?
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2010, 08:31:38 PM »
I agree with Todd! The work on finding that bear shouldn't have stopped until the sun had set (at the very earliest). And when the crows help find him I would hope his skull will be tagged and the hunt ended.

I have to agree, most likely dead from your scenario.  I personally feel that my tag (for whatever) is a tag for shooting/killing one animal and I would call it an end to my season.  But, as something like this is a personal matter, I would not put you down for whatever you decide to do.  Good luck on the deer.

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Re: bear down?
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2010, 10:15:25 PM »
ya there was 3 people with me when i went to look, no way i did that my self.  or at least the area, ill prob go out tomorrow again mid day after my morning hunt, i feel either i lost him or he lived, blood stopped and looked on every path/hole under a log/ and bush withing a good 50+ foot area.  trust me i feel horrible for not finding the bear, but i am not giving up that quickly but i am very disappointed that my shot must have not been good.    blood was great then slowed way way down to a few drops, one last little area one pile of it and then nothing with in any close area.  so no idea what happened the arrow only had blood for about 12 inches of it guess since i saw it last night with blood on it ( not a ton though).  broad head gone .... damn it this is frustrating. 

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Re: bear down?
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2010, 10:28:27 PM »
Frustrating...YES.  Happens...YES.  You won't be the first or the last to punch a tag on an unrecovered animal.  A 330" bull or a doe puts the same sucker-punch feeling in your stomach.  The measure of a bowhunter is how they react to it happening to them on that day.  Your aces in my book if you look another couple days, feel bad, try not to repeat the lesson you learned, and punch your tag.
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Re: bear down?
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2010, 11:28:07 AM »
I myself feel that this is one of the travesties that plagues hunters these days.  I am not going to say I have never lost an animal, because I have.  BUT I spent every waking hour looking for it.  I shot a deer with my bow a few years ago and lost the blood trail on a Saturday morning.  I spent the rest of the day walking back and forth covering every square inch of that place and did the same on Sunday.  I then spent every evening after work looking for it until the coyotes and birds showed me where it was.  It actually sickened me to lose it but I did recover the antlers and punched my tag.  The worst thing was I had walked past it probably a half dozen times but it had fallen in an old burnt out stump hole and wasn't visible unless you were standing directly over it, never even occurred to me at the time. 

That being said, it is the hunter's responsibilty to make every effort to recover an animal.  Spending a measly 3 hrs looking for it is a disgrace to the animal. The animals we hunt should be held in the highest regards and should be respected.  From what I read there was a considerable amount of blood so the bear is probably rotting somewhere. 

Bears are the worst for tracking because of the amount of fat they have that can seal up the wound channel.  The thing that bothers me about this story is that they did not spend near enough time looking in my humble opinion and then they go on to say that the bear probably lived and they would go on hunting and it is a real bummer.  I'm sorry I just don't buy it, spend the time looking for the animal prior to just giving up and resuming looking for another animal to wound. 

I am sorry if this offends the OP but I wouldn't quit looking until I found it, and I definitely wouldn't just pass it off as a bad shot.  "but really looking for the dear atm", so the bear doesn't deserve spending the time and effort?  Deer hunting is more important than the bear that is lying in the brush somewhere? "well not happy about it but at least i got the bug" so the bear is again just left by the wayside but it's ok because now you have "the bug"?  "well now since i know he is not dead, i hope it ends up being a bad shot and its not injured just a surface wound.", how do you know its just a surface wound and he is not dead?  Last but not least a 100 yd area is way too small, I have shot a few animals in my lifetime and they (especially bears) can run a couple hundred yards even with a heart or lung shot on adrenaline alone.

Sorry about the rant but I just can't force myself to treat this with "kids gloves" this just infuriates me >:(  >:(
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Re: bear down?
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2010, 02:13:30 PM »
well to make all you feel better i spent a total of 8 hours today looking, heard no crows, nothing spent all day out there with my flash light, machete, and gun.  went everywhere.  went back and forth to cover every inch of area.  i like how you assume i don't care about the bear, i don't recall ever saying that.  assumptions make asses out of people.  i spent my time out there and ill be out there again after work. and maybe here in a bit went in for some lunch. still no blood trail or any signs.

done posting about this, someone lock it, its all going to become flaming of me since i did not spend all night after the kill to find it,  also if people read the post before today it was up to 6 hours in the woods at the end of the blood trail with 3 people.  1 today though.  well thanks for the help that people provided.

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Re: bear down?
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2010, 02:38:10 PM »
Personally, the way I feel about it is that once that bear has been laying dead out there for more than 24 hours, the meat and the hide is not going to be salvageable, so I wouldn't feel too bad about giving up on it. I can see not hunting bears again for the rest of the year but there's no real reason it needs to be found at this point, other than just to satisfy your curiosity. Also, it will not go to waste. Something will eat eat every last bit of that bear (if it is in fact dead.)

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Re: bear down?
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2010, 05:45:16 PM »
Fish n Wildlife is partly to blame.  They have it illegal to use a trained dog to follow a blood trail.  If it was legal, I bet we would have a network of people all around the state that would help find lost game.
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