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Quote from: greenhead_killer on June 04, 2011, 11:09:37 AMits one of the worst ideas they have ever had. the wolves have been gone for so long that to reitroduce them is going to be MORE damaging to wildlife than if they never came here. it almost calls for a need to cut the state in half. westsiders are trying to make rules and implement things on the eastside, quite frankly i think because they will never have to personally deal with anything that passes. why are they so intent on placing wolves on the eastside? they have been found on the westside. why not plant 6 breeding pairs between bellevue and north bend? that way there, people who are pushing this will have to deal with the consequences of their actions. vote wolves in, they get dropped in YOUR backyard. you want them, perfect, you deal with them. dont try to push them on everyone else in the state where you will never deal with them. i think that with the ranchers and farmers, raising the prices of their goods would come as well. they start losing cattle, sheep, horses, pigs etc, the price per animal is going to have to go up so they can maintain their profit margin. we have plenty of predators with plenty of overbearing laws on them as it is, why add another, non- native species mind you, of predator that will make the current preds seem like kittens. they will destroy and decimate everything that people have worked for the last 60 years in the wildlife world. antelope, cya. bhs, cya. moose, cya. elk, deer, you guessed it, cya. we will go on outdoor hikes to look at bronze statues of what these animals looked like becuase there wont be any if these pukes have their wayI don't know where you are getting your misinformation from, but gray wolves are a NATIVE species and always have been.
its one of the worst ideas they have ever had. the wolves have been gone for so long that to reitroduce them is going to be MORE damaging to wildlife than if they never came here. it almost calls for a need to cut the state in half. westsiders are trying to make rules and implement things on the eastside, quite frankly i think because they will never have to personally deal with anything that passes. why are they so intent on placing wolves on the eastside? they have been found on the westside. why not plant 6 breeding pairs between bellevue and north bend? that way there, people who are pushing this will have to deal with the consequences of their actions. vote wolves in, they get dropped in YOUR backyard. you want them, perfect, you deal with them. dont try to push them on everyone else in the state where you will never deal with them. i think that with the ranchers and farmers, raising the prices of their goods would come as well. they start losing cattle, sheep, horses, pigs etc, the price per animal is going to have to go up so they can maintain their profit margin. we have plenty of predators with plenty of overbearing laws on them as it is, why add another, non- native species mind you, of predator that will make the current preds seem like kittens. they will destroy and decimate everything that people have worked for the last 60 years in the wildlife world. antelope, cya. bhs, cya. moose, cya. elk, deer, you guessed it, cya. we will go on outdoor hikes to look at bronze statues of what these animals looked like becuase there wont be any if these pukes have their way
I don't want wolves in this state, especially a non native species. But lets be honest here, there is no way in hell that we are gonna be able to go back to having zero any more. I think now, we need to push for a managed population. What that would be? I don't know, but we need to treat them like any other species, and manage them.
So, if they migrate so well, why plant them?
Quote from: DoubleJ on June 04, 2011, 11:21:01 AMSo, if they migrate so well, why plant them?Wolves were never planted in Washington. They came over naturally from Idaho and other states. There is no reason to reintroduce wolves to Washington when they are already come over naturally from places like Idaho and Canada.
Quote from: robertg on June 04, 2011, 11:23:38 AMQuote from: DoubleJ on June 04, 2011, 11:21:01 AMSo, if they migrate so well, why plant them?Wolves were never planted in Washington. They came over naturally from Idaho and other states. There is no reason to reintroduce wolves to Washington when they are already come over naturally from places like Idaho and Canada. Hmmm.... I wonder how those WDFW radio collars got around thier necks.
Quote from: DoubleJ on June 04, 2011, 11:21:01 AMSo, if they migrate so well, why plant them?thats what i was thinking. if they are meant to be, then let them move themselves. why is it that we feel the need to undo things that are forefathers did 200 years ago? why is it our responsibility to undo it all? there was a reason they were removed in the first place and just b/c they once were here before, doesnt mean that they need to be brought back. and sorry about the non-native species, i dont really care what species, they dont need to be brought back. PERIOD.
Quote from: greenhead_killer on June 04, 2011, 11:26:55 AMQuote from: DoubleJ on June 04, 2011, 11:21:01 AMSo, if they migrate so well, why plant them?thats what i was thinking. if they are meant to be, then let them move themselves. why is it that we feel the need to undo things that are forefathers did 200 years ago? why is it our responsibility to undo it all? there was a reason they were removed in the first place and just b/c they once were here before, doesnt mean that they need to be brought back. and sorry about the non-native species, i dont really care what species, they dont need to be brought back. PERIOD.That is how you personally feel. Others in Washington feel like they should be brought back. I'm just telling you how it is.
Quote from: robertg on June 04, 2011, 11:23:38 AMQuote from: DoubleJ on June 04, 2011, 11:21:01 AMSo, if they migrate so well, why plant them?Wolves were never planted in Washington. They came over naturally from Idaho and other states. There is no reason to reintroduce wolves to Washington when they are already come over naturally from places like Idaho and Canada.Really? I think you are the one who has mistaken info