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Re: Eastern Wa Rancher given permit to shoot wolf.
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2012, 09:58:29 AM »
Good write Dave, I agree, even though I have disagreed with the WDFW on their unworkable wolf plan, they did respond quickly to the rancher's loss. Now if wolf groups and the WDFW follow through with with some compensation as promised it will ease the latest financial pain for this family.

This same family was short over 2 dozen cattle at fall roundup last fall, many of which were likely killed by predators, most likely wolves. I also have to wonder that since cattle are out on range now, how many dead cattle have not been found yet. This is not wide open range land like there is in other parts of the west.
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Re: Eastern Wa Rancher given permit to shoot wolf.
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2012, 03:23:36 PM »
"Capture confirms presence of a new Washington wolf pack"

http://www.king5.com/news/environment/Capture-confirms-presence-of-a-new-Washington-wolf-pack-162636576.html

They captured the alpha male and a pup from the "Wedge Pack".
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Re: Eastern Wa Rancher given permit to shoot wolf.
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2012, 02:16:40 AM »
There are actually two wedge packs, sounds like they caught wolves from the pack on the westside near Laurier/Orient. Probably caught them coming back into the cattle kills that occurred a few days ago.

Here are the photos again of wolves belonging to the 2nd eastside wedge pack near Northport. This pack had pups 2 years ago. I don't know if they had pups last year or not, but they are there, here's the proof.
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Re: Eastern Wa Rancher given permit to shoot wolf.
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2012, 02:23:59 AM »
Dale, Do you know if those wolves close to northport are up sheep creek or out towards Mitchell and Muraski?
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Re: Eastern Wa Rancher given permit to shoot wolf.
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2012, 02:28:42 AM »
Dale, Do you know if those wolves close to northport are up sheep creek or out towards Mitchell and Muraski?

They are mostly hanging directly west of Northport, but have heard of them or others up towards Mitchell and Moraski too.
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Re: Eastern Wa Rancher given permit to shoot wolf.
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2012, 06:35:35 AM »
I think it's really funny. I showed the game dept wolf tracks 3 years ago I took. They could of careless about them. Now they are showing pictures of wolf tracks as a big deal. I wonder why they didn't care about mine ?
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Re: Eastern Wa Rancher given permit to shoot wolf.
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2012, 07:56:28 AM »
Because they can no longer hide them in the NE corner so they will make a big deal in the NE and ignore everywhere else. We have to have wolves in all 3 regions in order to delist. Have you never seen a slight of hand trick? They grab your attention with movement from one hand and do the trick with the other.  :twocents:
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Re: Eastern Wa Rancher given permit to shoot wolf.
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2012, 09:32:57 AM »
Because they can no longer hide them in the NE corner so they will make a big deal in the NE and ignore everywhere else. We have to have wolves in all 3 regions in order to delist. Have you never seen a slight of hand trick? They grab your attention with movement from one hand and do the trick with the other.  :twocents:


I made this post in another wolf topic, there is an 18 pack limit, then management can begin regardless.

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Don't forget, wildlife commissioner Douvia managed to get it in the wolf plan that once 18 packs are confirmed management can begin regardless of which regions the packs are in.  :tup:

There is no doubt enough packs in Washington to totally delist, it's important for us to keep the pressure on WDFW by posting every wolf sighting and especially pictures of tracks or wolves here on H-W and report it to the state.

The state will use the wolf reports to determine new areas to confirm wolves. By also posting on H-W we can keep the WDFW accountable for all the sightings and wolf pack locations.

I am certain we have twice as many packs as they have confirmed in the NE, so let them keep confirming packs, it gets us closer.

In the meantime it's important that members keep posting all their sighting (and especially any photos of tracks or wolves) here on the forum and to the WDFW, this way we can apply pressure.
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Re: Eastern Wa Rancher given permit to shoot wolf.
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2012, 10:53:29 AM »
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I made this post in another wolf topic, there is an 18 pack limit, then management can begin regardless.

I said this wrong, after checking into this again, the way I understand it, if 18 packs are confirmed the process to delist can begin before 3 consecutive years. But I think we still must have 4 packs in each of the 3 wolf zones.
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Re: Eastern Wa Rancher given permit to shoot wolf.
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2012, 11:15:40 PM »
Dale, Do you know if those wolves close to northport are up sheep creek or out towards Mitchell and Muraski?

They are mostly hanging directly west of Northport, but have heard of them or others up towards Mitchell and Moraski too.

I think the Mitchell Muraski Flats wolves are part of a different pack.
I've never heard of any wolves crossing hwy 25.

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Re: Eastern Wa Rancher given permit to shoot wolf.
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2012, 12:56:56 AM »
Dale, Do you know if those wolves close to northport are up sheep creek or out towards Mitchell and Muraski?

They are mostly hanging directly west of Northport, but have heard of them or others up towards Mitchell and Moraski too.

I think the Mitchell Muraski Flats wolves are part of a different pack.
I've never heard of any wolves crossing hwy 25.




KF, I am confused. Mitchell and Muraski flats are just a stones throw away from sheep creek. What would stop a wolf from crossing a road? They are both on the west side of the big C river. Although I do agree that they are a different pack but why would they not cross a road? They had to at some point.
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Re: Eastern Wa Rancher given permit to shoot wolf.
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2012, 09:36:55 AM »
nothing would stop a wolf from crossing the road, however if both areas were the same range for one pack of wolves they'd cross the road a lot more.




hwy 25 runs up a pretty good valley all the way to Rossland BC then back to Trail BC then you hit the Columbia and back down to Northport.  Makes a nice big circle about the size of range a pack of wolves would need. 


Not that they couldn't cross the road, but I'd say that violin lake would be the center of their territory.  Be fun to hike in and see whats up.

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Re: Eastern Wa Rancher given permit to shoot wolf.
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2012, 09:47:49 AM »
Why did the wolf cross the road? Hopefully because the hole made by the .243 made him go batchit crazy and run like a mofo! It's an age-old joke. :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: Eastern Wa Rancher given permit to shoot wolf.
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2012, 10:48:56 AM »
nothing would stop a wolf from crossing the road, however if both areas were the same range for one pack of wolves they'd cross the road a lot more.




hwy 25 runs up a pretty good valley all the way to Rossland BC then back to Trail BC then you hit the Columbia and back down to Northport.  Makes a nice big circle about the size of range a pack of wolves would need. 


Not that they couldn't cross the road, but I'd say that violin lake would be the center of their territory.  Be fun to hike in and see whats up.




I gotcha. I do know wolves travel far and wide but what I do not know is a packs range. So, if you take an area the size of the wedge..how many packs will tolerate each other within that area?

Wolves can reproduce at an extremely fast pace and I am in strong belief there are more wolves and packs in the NE corner then they admit. The "waiting for the rest of the state to catch up" in wolf allocation will be the downfall of Washingtons moose population. It is very sad to see our wildlife leaders stand by and watch that happen.  :twocents:

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